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Posted by daestrom on July 31, 2009, 1:45 pm
Ulysses wrote:

Yes, "Mr Rodger's Neighborhood" is still on the air in reruns.  But he
worked for public broadcasting, so I doubt his pay was stellar.  I'm
sure he did it because he believed in the value to children.  Sadly, he
passed away a few years back.


Posted by Morris Dovey on July 31, 2009, 10:11 am
Ulysses wrote:


Give some of the on-line search engines a try. My patent attorney
suggested I do a preliminary search with


and I just did a Google search on 'free patent search' and found a
sizable number of others. IIRC, IBM Corp has a search engine and patent
database that seemed fairly decent.

Doing a patent search is a real grind. The trick is to /not/ give up
until you're reasonably certain that what you have doesn't appear to
depend on prior art. Keep a log of any "iffy" prior patents so you can
come back to them later!

This month I/we finished a search. At the attorney's suggestion, I did
my own search starting about a week before his staff's start, and we
agreed that if either of us found a "show-stopper", we'd notify the
other and his billable time would end at that point. (FYI, neither of us
found anything, and his bill for the search was US$860 - not cheap, but
nowhere near as high a number as I've seen bounced about on the web).

AFAICT patent attorneys are like any other group of people, ie half of
'em fall into the "below average" catagory. I'm convinced that it's
worth the effort to do a patent /attorney/ search to eliminate the
"below average" and "average" groups, and then choose from the remainder
based on cost and ability to fully understand your invention, so that
they can formulate the strongest and broadest possible claims for you.

Good luck!

Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA

Posted by Ulysses on July 31, 2009, 2:16 pm



So, what was your conclusion?  Got something to patent?

OK, thanks!  Many years ago some of them did it for a set fee instead of by
the hour.  Something like $00 if I recall correctly.

Posted by Morris Dovey on July 31, 2009, 2:53 pm
 Ulysses wrote:

We had a meeting when he finished his search, and it appears that I do.
I gave him the go-ahead to prepare the application, and we'll meet again
  when that's done.

Well, yes - I can remember $.19/dozen eggs, $.49/lb lean bacon, and
$900 Ford Falcons, too. The flat fee for my previous patent (that was
for a design patent, rather than a utility patent like this one) was $00.

Also, if you're old enough to remember the stuff I listed, the PTO may
be willing to expedite your application so you'll have a fair chance of
issuance before you expire. :)

Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA

Posted by Ulysses on August 1, 2009, 2:59 pm

LOL  Yes, I'm old enough to remember those things and nickel candy bars.
Heck, I'm so old I actually understand women!

Just kidding, nobody's THAT old.  ;-)

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