Posted by lkgeo1 on October 5, 2006, 8:32 pm
Imagine a non-polluting, safe and sustainable fuel. One that does not
emit greenhouse gases that does not contribute to global warming that
does not affect the quality of the air that we breathe.
Imagine that this fuel could be used to power our homes, cars and
lives, efficiently and economically. That it could be derived from
renewable energy sources, and that it has just one by-product - clean,
At Shell, we are developing opportunities to promote this fuel. It is
called hydrogen, and it can revolutionise society's use of energy.
Posted by Jim Bob on October 5, 2006, 10:33 pm
On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 13:32:11 -0700, lkgeo1 wrote:
Magnetic motors have beat Shell to the punch. See www.steorn.net.
Posted by CM on October 6, 2006, 8:19 am
The really old "magnetic motor" scam in tarted up with fancy new graphics.
Folks, this keeps popping up like a bad penny. There is just no way to
"arrange magnetic fields and move a piece of iron" in any configuration
that will produce an unending supply of energy.
Yes, Virginia, some things really are impossible.
Posted by Alan Connor on October 6, 2006, 9:05 am
On alt.energy.homepower, in
Just because no one's done it yet, doesn't mean it is impossible.
Yes, Virginia, there are fools who think that the scientists
Even though they discover on a regular basis that they were
wrong about something or another.
For example, in the late 1800's there was a fierce debate in
the scientific community over whether the atom was the smallest
unit of matter or not. Scientists lost their jobs and their
reputations during that academic melee.
Stephen Hawking just admitted that he was wrong about Black
There are hundreds of other similar examples. The history of
science is a history of theories over-turned and theories
radically revised and new theories that may or may not prove out
in the long run. Many of today's respected scientists would have
been considered flaming kooks by the scientists of 50 years ago.
Compare a modern college science textbook, an introduction to
general science, with one from the 1950's. If you've studied the
former you'd laugh out loud at the latter.
Posted by Windsun on October 6, 2006, 10:34 am
And there are REALLY REALLY BIG fools that think they know more than 100
years worth of 100's of thousands of scientists and can defy scientific
laws, even though they don't have the slightest clue about physics. And
citing examples from the 1800's is hardly proof of your opinion.
"> Even though they discover on a regular basis that they were
Baloney. Hawkings being wrong about black holes, which are millions of light
years away and a bit hard to study, and trying to defy things like Maxwells
equations http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxwell%27s_equations that have been
proven and reproven millions of times is a bit different.
But I find these arguements nearly always come from people that know almost
nothing about real science, just the pseudo-science and junk-science that
they saw on TV last night (and on MTV, not the Discovery channels).