Posted by hubops on December 18, 2010, 10:46 pm
>In Ontario they pay you 80.2 cents per kWh and makes a good investment on a
>larger scale. A neighbour is installing a 120kW system right now.
>Batteries are not allowed and the systems stay fairly simple.
>They must be on the roof
>There cannot be any other alternate sources included.
I think the installation needs to be 10 kw or less
to qualify for the 80 cent microFIT pricing. ?
Your neighbours 120 kw system will still collect him
a premium taxpayer-assisted price for his green power
.. but not 80 cents.
The rules are changing, though. I stand to be corrected.
John T.
Posted by Josepi on December 19, 2010, 4:07 am
Sorry I mislead you on that one.
That is correct. He will only obtain 71.3 cents / kWh being over 10kW
http://fit.powerauthority.on.ca/Page.asp?PageID 2&ContentID195&SiteNodeID98&BL_ExpandID%9
I think the installation needs to be 10 kw or less
to qualify for the 80 cent microFIT pricing. ?
Your neighbours 120 kw system will still collect him
a premium taxpayer-assisted price for his green power
.. but not 80 cents.
The rules are changing, though. I stand to be corrected.
John T.
>In Ontario they pay you 80.2 cents per kWh and makes a good investment on a
>larger scale. A neighbour is installing a 120kW system right now.
>Batteries are not allowed and the systems stay fairly simple.
>They must be on the roof
>There cannot be any other alternate sources included.
Posted by Jim Rojas on December 19, 2010, 4:09 am
Josepi wrote:
> Sorry I mislead you on that one.
> That is correct. He will only obtain 71.3 cents / kWh being over 10kW
>
http://fit.powerauthority.on.ca/Page.asp?PageID 2&ContentID195&SiteNodeID98&BL_ExpandID%9
> I think the installation needs to be 10 kw or less
> to qualify for the 80 cent microFIT pricing. ?
> Your neighbours 120 kw system will still collect him
> a premium taxpayer-assisted price for his green power
> .. but not 80 cents.
> The rules are changing, though. I stand to be corrected.
> John T.
>> In Ontario they pay you 80.2 cents per kWh and makes a good investment on a
>> larger scale. A neighbour is installing a 120kW system right now.
>> Batteries are not allowed and the systems stay fairly simple.
>> They must be on the roof
>> There cannot be any other alternate sources included.
I heard USA utilities pay 1-3 cents per KW. Is this true?
Jim Rojas
Posted by Jane_Galt on December 19, 2010, 4:18 am
>
> I heard USA utilities pay 1-3 cents per KW. Is this true?
>
> Jim Rojas
>
I just cited 4.5 to 9 cents from Xcel.
--
- Jane Galt
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rights.' No human rights can exist without property rights. Since material
goods are produced by the mind and effort of individual men, and are needed
to sustain their lives, if the producer does not own the result of his
effort, he does not own his life. To deny property rights means to turn men
into property owned by the state. Whoever claims the 'right' to
'redistribute' the wealth produced by others is claiming the 'right' to treat
human beings as chattel." -- Ayn Rand
Posted by Jim Rojas on December 18, 2010, 11:01 pm
Josepi wrote:
> In Ontario they pay you 80.2 cents per kWh and makes a good investment on a
> larger scale. A neighbour is installing a 120kW system right now.
> Batteries are not allowed and the systems stay fairly simple.
> They must be on the roof
> There cannot be any other alternate sources included.
> I believe most experienced and educated users will tell you the break even
> point would be about 40 cents / kWh to even pay the interest on the money
> investment loss and make it possible to ever get a payback. Some will tell
> you the payback is 6-8 years at 10 cents/kWh but most can't multiply two
> numbers together or tell you the difference between power and energy.
> Solar thermal is a different beast, cheaper and payback times are much
> quicker.
> One big problem is that the power company doesnt have to pay you the same,
> when you send the power back to the grid, as what you paid them for it.
> - Jane Galt
120KW equals what? $ million dollars in solar panels?...not a real
world solution for the average person is it? Most people are more
comfortable spending no more than they would pay in a year to the
utility company. ($00 a month x 12 = $200 a year) My setup cost under
that, and I am in my third year. So my return on investment was 2.5 years.
We are not trying to shift the wealth from a big utility to a
manufacturer of solar panels, but become more self sufficient at a
reasonable cost.
I was told by my utility company that I could not connect my RPM to the
grid. I would have to have it installed by a licensed electrician.
That's true only if I planned to sell power back to the grid. Since I
have no interest in collecting pennies, I told them I would find another
solution. Then I find out grid tie inverters do just that. Then they
tell me I am limited to 5KW. Anything more would require expensive
permits, and engineers drawnings. So I will stop at 5KW, and build a 2nd
unit to provide me the other 5KW if needed. I will alternate their use,
and let them know that the second unit is a backup...PERFECTLY LEGAL.
They tried to get me to shutdown my 3KW unit twice. But since I proved
to them my RPM has islanding protection, they stopped harassing me about
2 years ago.
Jim Rojas
>larger scale. A neighbour is installing a 120kW system right now.
>Batteries are not allowed and the systems stay fairly simple.
>They must be on the roof
>There cannot be any other alternate sources included.