Posted by Vaughn on May 22, 2013, 1:37 pm
On 5/22/2013 8:54 AM, amdx wrote:
> I'm curious, How much can you cool it before the reaction stops?
Good question!
> Is the resistance heating enough to keep the reaction going even when
> bathed in room temp water?
> Mikek
There is no particular reason for it to be bathed in room temperature
water. Assuming that the final use of the E-cat will be as the energy
source in a heat engine; the hotter the operating temperature, the more
useful and more efficient it will be.
To power a commercial steam plant of useful efficiency, 400 degrees F.
is around the lower limit.
Vaughn
Posted by Vaughn on May 22, 2013, 12:54 pm
On 5/21/2013 9:23 PM, amdx wrote:
> I ask for reviews, I did not find any believers and
> had one fellow do a page by page breakdown of things
> he didn't like about the tests.
This is the best test so far. The "tests" that have been provided by
E-Cat in the past have been laughable.
Still, you can include me among the interested but still unconvinced
parties. For starters, I don't like their method of measuring output.
Also it concerns me that it was conducted at E-cat, and apparently under
their supervision, and so doesn't quite qualify as a true 3rd party test.
Hasn't E-cat invented some way of tapping useful energy from their
cells? If so, why wasn't it used?
Vaughn
Posted by mike on May 24, 2013, 2:04 am
On 5/21/2013 12:43 PM, amdx wrote:
> Here's a link to a PDF (right side of page) of third party testing
> on the E-Cat HT.
>
> I have only read reviews so far but it looks good.
>
> Please read and review the paper.
>
>
> http://arxiv.org/abs/1305.3913
>
> Maybe this will generate a little traffic,
> believers and non believers. :-)
>
> Mikek
Yet another study in obfuscation.
They go well out of their way to avoid making a measurement.
Put a water jacket around the thing.
Measure the water volume at beginning and end of the experiment.
Vent the steam.
Control the steam outlet pressure to vary the water temperature.
If you know the
starting water temperature.
volume of water vented as steam
steam outlet pressure or temperature
you should have enough information to make a useful output
measurement in a REAL application that can be used to
extract useful energy.
The measurement is trivial. You could do it in your garage
with instrumentation found in the kitchen drawer.
The ONLY reason for not making
a similar DIRECT measurement is to obfuscate the result.
Thumbs-down in my corner of the universe!!!