Posted by Curbie on April 23, 2010, 7:47 pm
Jim,
No one is responsible for my mistakes except me. Thanks for the axle
idea, but after CAD-ing it I think it is a step backwards for
construction simplicity and cost. Channel iron for the frame on the
other hand may have some potential.
Thanks,
Curbie
Posted by Jim Wilkins on April 23, 2010, 9:56 pm
> Jim,
> No one is responsible for my mistakes except me. Thanks for the axle
> idea, but after CAD-ing it I think it is a step backwards for
> construction simplicity and cost. Channel iron for the frame on the
> other hand may have some potential.
> Thanks,
> Curbie
The disclaimer is standard on rec.crafts.metalworking when someone
asks if they can hang a 2x6 the width of their 2-bay garage and use it
to pull an engine. I toss it out preemptively now.
Personally I'd make the rolls from a discarded hydraulic cylinder with
end plugs turned from barbell weights. The axles could be cut from the
cylinder's piston rod if it's long enough or you find a pair. If I
couldn't get bearings to fit I'd make needle bearings from welding-rod
needles, boring the outer race to fit AFTER welding it to its mounting
flange. Music wire is another possibility.
http://picasaweb.google.com/KB1DAL/Wheels#
The wheels, axles and needles are stainless because the platform
stacker lives outdoors, under cover but on damp dirt. The stock wheels
were hopeless outdoors.
Keyed shaft is convenient if you don't have a milling machine:
http://www.fastenal.com/web/products.ex?N=999608572
Taper-lock is an alternative for gear attachment that doesn't
absolutely need the key:
http://www.linngear.com/products/highlights/infosheets/t-1.html
OTOH you don't have to buy too much of stuff like that to spend the
price of a lathe or mill-drill.
jsw
Posted by Curbie on April 23, 2010, 10:48 pm
Jim,
>http://www.fastenal.com/web/products.ex?N9608572
I started a file with your links in it, just added this one too.
Thanks,
Curbie
Posted by Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds on April 23, 2010, 8:00 pm
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1g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>,
> > Jim,
> >...
> > >...You could look into stub axles for trailers.
> > >http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/category_trailers-trailer-part ...
> >
> > My "mind's eye" can't see the design?
> >
> > Curbie
>
> The axles become the ends of the rollers. The "wheels" could be a
> short pieces of thick-walled tubing counterbored to take the bearings.
> Weld them to the frame attachment plates to make DIY pillow blocks.
> Mill lengthwise drive key slots in the axles and stack the gears on
> outboard of the "wheels", which you make correspondingly thinner. The
> axle nut holds the gear and bearings together.
>
> That's if you can't find suitable roller-bearing pillow blocks. A
> roller either turned as one piece or built up as a tube with end plugs
> strung onto a long shaft is safer because it won't distort from
> welding, if you have the money and a large enough lathe.
>
> As for the frame, I can't be responsible for your structural
> engineering calculations but IIRC the 12 Ton hydraulic press here uses
> 3" channel for the frame. The 20 Ton one uses 4" channel.
> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber3497
>
> I couldn't measure the weight (web thickness) of the channel. Rolled
> steel structural shapes are sold by width and weight per pound,
> controlled by the spacing when they are rolled. In my 1970 steel
> construction manual 3" channel weighs 4.1 Lbs / foot, 4" weighs 5.4. I
> think other weights are available now.
>
> jsw
Gee, all of a sudden I'm thinking of
using two railroad "trucks" on top of
each other. I don't know how you would
power them, but they have the
axle/bearing issue pre-solved...and are
probably reasonably priced
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Posted by Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds on April 14, 2010, 10:51 pm
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wrote:
> I'm studying the process of harvesting and juicing the stalks of
> Jerusalem artichokes and leaving (most) of the tubers in the ground
> for re-growth (the following season).
>
> The literature I've read is pretty vague on this point; the patent
> (4400469) describes a hammer mill and a (undefined) press, although
> the hammer mill is a pretty easy home-scale DIY device, it's really
> just a device to pulverize and the lack of detail on this undefined
> press is troubling.
>
> I've been tinkering with the idea of slight modifications to a hammer
> mill by putting small juice holes on the bottom and the pulp exit mesh
> on the lower part of one side, just above a small juice "Dam".
>
> I've looked at other ways, "roller press", "masticating juicer",
> "centrifugal juicer", and "hammer mill" type designs, all have
> interesting points for both ease of DIY construction and
> efficient juicing.
>
> I been chasing my tail for a while on this and was hoping some
> feedback would help me sort this out.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Curbie
I might try an old cement truck mixer
with a slight faster speed and lots of
heavey ball bearings of different sizes.
> No one is responsible for my mistakes except me. Thanks for the axle
> idea, but after CAD-ing it I think it is a step backwards for
> construction simplicity and cost. Channel iron for the frame on the
> other hand may have some potential.
> Thanks,
> Curbie