Posted by Mike on December 23, 2008, 7:50 am
On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 11:47:33 -0800 (PST), harry
>And I thought the USA was the last bulwark of imperial measure!
>When I was an apprentice it was so in the UK. But we went partly
>metric about twenty yeqars ago here in the UK.
>Except beer. Beer is in pints.
Only draught beer and a pint can mean anything depending on where you
are in the country. A pint of beer, or almost a pint and a bit of
head, or a pint of gassy liquid.
>And we still have miles. The f*****g
>European Union is trying to make us accept kilometers now.
No they aren't, they've given up.
>We are
>fightiing tooth and nail.
>Petrol is in litres.
The amount dispensed per unit of currency is no different to when it
was sold in gallons. If anything the lowest counted amount 0.01 litre
compared to 0.01 gallons together with rounding down (it *has* to be
rounded down by law) could mean you are getting more fuel per unit of
currency than you would with gallons.
Of course way back in history you could use farthings to buy fuel so
960 currency units per pound rather than 100, so they are probably
ripping you off for using decimal currency.
>As is milk in plastic bottles.
No, you can very widely still buy litres or pints. For instance only
yesterday I bought 2.272 litres of milk - or 4 pints in a plastic
container from a supermarket. As the 4 pints is a declared size, they
actually have to supply at least 4 pints which is 2.27304594 litres.
>But in glass bottles, still in pints.
Not seen them for nearly 10 years - last ones were in an off-licence
>Don't let them metrify you over there. The equivalent metric sizes
>are always a bit smaller then the imperial size. So you always end up
>getting robbed.
>Wood, bricks, everything. eg 1200mm is less than four feet. By about
>an inch. So an 8' X4' sheet of ply is now 94" x 47". They stole a
>bit of wood off us! b****s!
Bricks have an identical count per square area as they did before.
Metric bricks are 215mm x 102.5mm x 63.5mm and have now been in use
for around 50 years - they are as near as dammit identical in size to
bricks produced 150 years ago.
Imperial bricks were commonly 8½ × 4 × 2½ inches or 215.9mm x 101.6mm
x 63.5mm, so in length they are 35.433 thousandths of an inch shorter,
and in depth 35.433 thousandths of an inch less. Now if you can spot
35.433 thousandths on an brick then you are a f*cking genius
especially when the tolerance on bricks is greater than the difference
in nominal sizes.
I recently bought 18mm ply sized at 2440mm x 1220mm which is
96.0629921 inches x 48.0314961 inches - so bigger than it used to be
when it was an 8 x 4 sheet.
>Forever we have lost it.
No, you have :)
P.S. A pound is 453.59237 grams. A 'pound of jam' as is a pound of
any similar produce has to be a minimum of 454g so you are getting
more than you would under imperial units!
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Posted by harry on December 24, 2008, 1:55 pm
> On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 11:47:33 -0800 (PST), harry
> >And I thought the USA was the last bulwark of imperial measure!
> >When I was an apprentice it was so in the UK. But we went partly
> >metric about twenty yeqars ago here in the UK.
> >Except beer. Beer is in pints.
> Only draught beer and a pint can mean anything depending on where you
> are in the country. A pint of beer, or almost a pint and a bit of
> head, or a pint of gassy liquid.
> >And we still have miles. The f*****g
> >European Union is trying to make us accept kilometers now.
> No they aren't, they've given up.
> >We are
> >fightiing tooth and nail.
> >Petrol is in litres.
> The amount dispensed per unit of currency is no different to when it
> was sold in gallons. If anything the lowest counted amount 0.01 litre
> compared to 0.01 gallons together with rounding down (it *has* to be
> rounded down by law) could mean you are getting more fuel per unit of
> currency than you would with gallons.
> Of course way back in history you could use farthings to buy fuel so
> 960 currency units per pound rather than 100, so they are probably
> ripping you off for using decimal currency.
> >As is milk in plastic bottles.
> No, you can very widely still buy litres or pints. For instance only
> yesterday I bought 2.272 litres of milk - or 4 pints in a plastic
> container from a supermarket. As the 4 pints is a declared size, they
> actually have to supply at least 4 pints which is 2.27304594 litres.
> >But in glass bottles, still in pints.
> Not seen them for nearly 10 years - last ones were in an off-licence
> >Don't let them metrify you over there. The equivalent metric sizes
> >are always a bit smaller then the imperial size. So you always end up
> >getting robbed.
> >Wood, bricks, everything. eg 1200mm is less than four feet. By about
> >an inch. So an 8' X4' sheet of ply is now 94" x 47". They stole a
> >bit of wood off us! b****s!
> Bricks have an identical count per square area as they did before.
> Metric bricks are 215mm x 102.5mm x 63.5mm and have now been in use
> for around 50 years - they are as near as dammit identical in size to
> bricks produced 150 years ago.
> Imperial bricks were commonly 8½ × 4 × 2½ inches or 215.9mm x 101.6mm
> x 63.5mm, so in length they are 35.433 thousandths of an inch shorter,
> and in depth 35.433 thousandths of an inch less. Now if you can spot
> 35.433 thousandths on an brick then you are a f*cking genius
> especially when the tolerance on bricks is greater than the difference
> in nominal sizes.
> I recently bought 18mm ply sized at 2440mm x 1220mm which is
> 96.0629921 inches x 48.0314961 inches - so bigger than it used to be
> when it was an 8 x 4 sheet.
> >Forever we have lost it.
> No, you have :)
> P.S. A pound is 453.59237 grams. A 'pound of jam' as is a pound of
> any similar produce has to be a minimum of 454g so you are getting
> more than you would under imperial units!
> --
I have glass milk bottles delivered to my house daily. (pint sizes)
And metric bricks are half and inch =1cm approx,) smaller than
imperial.(Vertically) Clearly you've never laid bricks or tried to
extend an old brick building. Nightmare. No possibilty of a bond. I
suggest you go out with a ruler. Not that you need one, the
difference is easily visible.
As for your ply it must have been American. If it had been European,
2400mm x 1200mm is the standard. And the most commonly available.
Posted by clare on December 11, 2008, 9:19 pm
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 14:28:40 -0600, david.williams@bayman.org (David
Williams) wrote:
>On 12/11/2008 9:42 AM, noemail@reply.in.this.group wrote to All:
>->
>-> > EXT wrote:
>-> >
>-> >> Where I live, I need some sort of heating to prevent everything from
>-> >> freezing hard, central or otherwise. Solar power is no good when you
>-> >> can have 6 weeks straight of dark gray days with heavy cloud cover. I
>-> >> have more insulation than the current standard recommendations, and
>-> >> always have.
>-> >
>-> > You've made me curious - where do you experience such oppressive weather?
>-> >
>-> > --
>-> > Morris Dovey
>-> > DeSoto Solar
>-> > DeSoto, Iowa USA
>-> > http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/
>->
>-> Southern Ontario Canada --- classic November weather is heavily overcast,
>-> also it occurs for periods throughout winter caused by lake-effect
>-> clouds/rain/snow from the great lakes.
>The moral of the story is, don't live downwind of a lake.
>Things don't freeze hard in Southern Ontario in November. Not if they're
>reasonably well insulated. I sometimes go away for a few days (from my home
>in Toronto) and never worry about pipes freezing if the heating system in
>my house fails, except in January and February. At all other times, enough
>heat comes up from the ground to keep the interior of the house above
>freezing point.
> dow
>
That works in Hogtown, but not 60 miles away in Waterloo, or up in
Stratford.
It was -16c here the last 2 nights.
Posted by Bob F on December 13, 2008, 6:57 pm
message
> The air powered car is the total future -- they might develop one that
> will cruise along at equal speeds like the other cars --- they might
> even
> build it to travel on land, water and even fly.
> Yes, I am a dreaming futurist with the only authorized air car sales
> and
> distribution in California over the ext decade.
And exactly how many have you sold?
Posted by Saint Isadore Patron Saint of on December 20, 2008, 1:43 am
> message
> > The air powered car is the total future -- they might develop one that
> > will cruise along at equal speeds like the other cars --- they might
> > even
> > build it to travel on land, water and even fly.
> > Yes, I am a dreaming futurist with the only authorized air car sales
> > and
> > distribution in California over the ext decade.
> And exactly how many have you sold?
None, they are not yet approved for pubic sales in the USA.
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>When I was an apprentice it was so in the UK. But we went partly
>metric about twenty yeqars ago here in the UK.
>Except beer. Beer is in pints.