Posted by harry on November 3, 2009, 7:38 pm
A lot of discussion about lead acid batteries I see.
In days of yore, batteries came in big glass tanks and when they
failed, you could take them to a local shop & they would be dismantled
and new lead plates & acid fitted. They were called accumulators here
in the UK then.
I wonder if that's still possible today? Could a battery be modified
to make it dismantlable & then repaired?
Or could one make one's own battery in say a plastic dustbin/
trashcan? What would be the problem? It's easy to get hold of sheet
lead intended for roofing.
There seems to be all the information here:-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead-acid_battery
Posted by Scott on November 4, 2009, 1:46 am
On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 11:38:06 -0800 (PST), in alt.energy.homepower, harry
>A lot of discussion about lead acid batteries I see.
>In days of yore, batteries came in big glass tanks and when they
>failed, you could take them to a local shop & they would be dismantled
>and new lead plates & acid fitted. They were called accumulators here
>in the UK then.
>I wonder if that's still possible today? Could a battery be modified
>to make it dismantlable & then repaired?
Probably not cost-effective at the consumer level. Most of the value is in
the metal and acid, the rest is just a cheap plastic tank.
ISTR something about industrial scale batteries build up from individual
2-volt cells of the usual modern construction. Allows easy replacement of a
bad cell without the hassle of handling an open container full of heavy
metals and corrosives.
>Or could one make one's own battery in say a plastic dustbin/
>trashcan? What would be the problem? It's easy to get hold of sheet
>lead intended for roofing.
I think you would have a very hard time coming anywhere near the efficiency
of a modern manufactured battery, on both a cost and energy basis.
Posted by Jim Wilkins on November 4, 2009, 11:30 am
On Nov 3, 8:46pm, nob...@xmission.com (Scott) wrote:
> On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 11:38:06 -0800 (PST), in alt.energy.homepower, harry
> >I wonder if that's still possible today? Could a battery be modified
> >to make it dismantlable & then repaired?
You could consider iron-nickel batteries too.
jsw
Posted by BobG on November 4, 2009, 5:50 pm
On Nov 3, 8:46pm, nob...@xmission.com (Scott) wrote:
> ISTR something about industrial scale batteries build up from individual
> 2-volt cells of the usual modern construction.
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Thats Rolls Surrette... search for 2 volt battery
Posted by spike on November 6, 2009, 10:28 pm
harry schrieb:
> A lot of discussion about lead acid batteries I see.
> In days of yore, batteries came in big glass tanks and when they
> failed, you could take them to a local shop & they would be dismantled
> and new lead plates & acid fitted. They were called accumulators here
> in the UK then.
> I wonder if that's still possible today? Could a battery be modified
> to make it dismantlable & then repaired?
> Or could one make one's own battery in say a plastic dustbin/
> trashcan? What would be the problem? It's easy to get hold of sheet
> lead intended for roofing.
> There seems to be all the information here:-
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead-acid_battery
Try to get your hands on Creative Science & Research #396, i am sure you
can get it via torrent or something. in there it describes how to make
your own batteries. you use old ALUMINUM coke cans as kathode(-) (remove
coting inside the coke-can before proceeding), and a COPPER pipe (of
course isolated from the aluminum) as anode(+) and fill it up with
WATER, adding 5-10% ACID (tap water with bleach)...
when their empty just refill the tap water + acid.
if you add more acid to the batteries, the more Volts, but the metal
will corrode much sooner.
you can put those coke can-batteries in series and/or parallel to get
more out of it.
have fun building it ;-)
>In days of yore, batteries came in big glass tanks and when they
>failed, you could take them to a local shop & they would be dismantled
>and new lead plates & acid fitted. They were called accumulators here
>in the UK then.
>I wonder if that's still possible today? Could a battery be modified
>to make it dismantlable & then repaired?