Posted by sspence on January 20, 2008, 7:34 pm
We're here to discuss 12VDC alternative power systems for off-grid
homes, whether off-grid by choice or necessity. We'll talk about any
type of generation -- wind, solar, hydro or whatever. And, we'll also
discuss storage and distribution systems for 12 VDC. And, not to
eliminate anyone, we'll gladly talk about 24 and 48 volt DC systems
too. Our planet is rapidly running out of fossil fuels, and the
pollution from those is destroying our environment. It's time to
utilize renewable energy and that's why our group is here.
We are NOT here to discuss "over-unity", "free energy" or any other
non-existent, non-functional, and 'simply impossible by any known law
of physics' devices. If you want to discuss all that pie-in-the-sky
crap, that's fine, just don't do it here.
This group exists to further the understanding and ability of its
members to use low voltage direct current electricty to live off-grid
or to supplement grid power. That said, there's no problem in
discussing inverters and generators in an off-grid or back-up capacity
because we all know that the sun doesn't shine and/or the wind blow
all the time. And, sometimes, folks just can't live by 12 VDC alone.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/12VDC_Power/
Posted by bealiba on January 20, 2008, 10:18 pm
> We're here to discuss 12VDC alternative power systems for off-grid
> homes, whether off-grid by choice or necessity. We'll talk about any
> type of generation -- wind, solar, hydro or whatever. And, we'll also
> discuss storage and distribution systems for 12 VDC. And, not to
> eliminate anyone, we'll gladly talk about 24 and 48 volt DC systems
> too. Our planet is rapidly running out of fossil fuels, and the
> pollution from those is destroying our environment. It's time to
> utilize renewable energy and that's why our group is here.
> We are NOT here to discuss "over-unity", "free energy" or any other
> non-existent, non-functional, and 'simply impossible by any known law
> of physics' devices. If you want to discuss all that pie-in-the-sky
> crap, that's fine, just don't do it here.
> This group exists to further the understanding and ability of its
> members to use low voltage direct current electricty to live off-grid
> or to supplement grid power. That said, there's no problem in
> discussing inverters and generators in an off-grid or back-up capacity
> because we all know that the sun doesn't shine and/or the wind blow
> all the time. And, sometimes, folks just can't live by 12 VDC alone.
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/12VDC_Power/
Moderated by Steve of course.
Where he can avoid the problems of having his foot in his mouth.
Don't support Steve's mono-mania, don't bother trying to join.
Posted by sspence on January 21, 2008, 8:41 am
On Jan 20, 10:18 pm, beal...@gmail.com wrote:
> > We're here to discuss 12VDC alternative power systems for off-grid
> > homes, whether off-grid by choice or necessity. We'll talk about any
> > type of generation -- wind, solar, hydro or whatever. And, we'll also
> > discuss storage and distribution systems for 12 VDC. And, not to
> > eliminate anyone, we'll gladly talk about 24 and 48 volt DC systems
> > too. Our planet is rapidly running out of fossil fuels, and the
> > pollution from those is destroying our environment. It's time to
> > utilize renewable energy and that's why our group is here.
> > We are NOT here to discuss "over-unity", "free energy" or any other
> > non-existent, non-functional, and 'simply impossible by any known law
> > of physics' devices. If you want to discuss all that pie-in-the-sky
> > crap, that's fine, just don't do it here.
> > This group exists to further the understanding and ability of its
> > members to use low voltage direct current electricty to live off-grid
> > or to supplement grid power. That said, there's no problem in
> > discussing inverters and generators in an off-grid or back-up capacity
> > because we all know that the sun doesn't shine and/or the wind blow
> > all the time. And, sometimes, folks just can't live by 12 VDC alone.
> >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/12VDC_Power/
> Moderated by Steve of course.
> Where he can avoid the problems of having his foot in his mouth.
> Don't support Steve's mono-mania, don't bother trying to join.- Hide quoted text -
> - Show quoted text -
Better to have my foot in my mouth, than my head in my ass. Yes, it's
a Ghio free zone. Which means of course, real solutions are discussed,
and straw men and ridicule are not allowed.
Posted by Neon John on January 21, 2008, 4:47 pm
>Better to have my foot in my mouth, than my head in my ass. Yes, it's
>a Ghio free zone. Which means of course, real solutions are discussed,
>and straw men and ridicule are not allowed.
Random House's dictionary -
forum (for'-um), n, pl forums, fora
1. A place in cyberspace where a narcissistic egotist and two or three of his
closest
sycophants go to play with themselves without pesky opposition or discouraging
words
after they wash out of open public discussions. A phenomena closely related to
fundamentalists, survivalists and backwoods militias. Usually a very short-lived
phenomena.
Does this mean that you and your "green trust" (sic) are leaving Usenet?
John
--
John De Armond
See my website for my current email address
http://www.neon-john.com
http://www.johndearmond.com <-- best little blog on the net!
Tellico Plains, Occupied TN
Daddy, why doesn't this magnet pick up this floppy?
Posted by bealiba on January 21, 2008, 5:09 pm
> >Better to have my foot in my mouth, than my head in my ass. Yes, it's
> >a Ghio free zone. Which means of course, real solutions are discussed,
> >and straw men and ridicule are not allowed.
> Random House's dictionary -
> forum (for'-um), n, pl forums, fora
> 1. A place in cyberspace where a narcissistic egotist and two or three of his
closest
> sycophants go to play with themselves without pesky opposition or discouraging
words
> after they wash out of open public discussions. A phenomena closely related to
> fundamentalists, survivalists and backwoods militias. Usually a very
short-lived
> phenomena.
> Does this mean that you and your "green trust" (sic) are leaving Usenet?
> John
> --
> John De Armond
> See my website for my current email
addresshttp://www.neon-john.comhttp://www.johndearmond.com<-- best little blog
on the net!
> Tellico Plains, Occupied TN
> Daddy, why doesn't this magnet pick up this floppy?
What it means is that steve and co are admitting that they can't mix
it in the real world.
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> homes, whether off-grid by choice or necessity. We'll talk about any
> type of generation -- wind, solar, hydro or whatever. And, we'll also
> discuss storage and distribution systems for 12 VDC. And, not to
> eliminate anyone, we'll gladly talk about 24 and 48 volt DC systems
> too. Our planet is rapidly running out of fossil fuels, and the
> pollution from those is destroying our environment. It's time to
> utilize renewable energy and that's why our group is here.
> We are NOT here to discuss "over-unity", "free energy" or any other
> non-existent, non-functional, and 'simply impossible by any known law
> of physics' devices. If you want to discuss all that pie-in-the-sky
> crap, that's fine, just don't do it here.
> This group exists to further the understanding and ability of its
> members to use low voltage direct current electricty to live off-grid
> or to supplement grid power. That said, there's no problem in
> discussing inverters and generators in an off-grid or back-up capacity
> because we all know that the sun doesn't shine and/or the wind blow
> all the time. And, sometimes, folks just can't live by 12 VDC alone.
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/12VDC_Power/