Posted by buffalo on January 7, 2007, 7:10 pm
Folks, the prices of any battery is just crazy. I use alot of d, aa, aaa
and some aaaa and also alot of car batteries.
I usually keep a supply of the smaller ones in the refrigerator but my
supply is no more.
I needed some 9 volt jobs the other day and was shocked (pardon pun) to find
that they were almost $2.50 apiece.
So, it made me think that a long time ago in my dark past, I had made a few
car batteries and took notes, too. I cannot find the notes and would like
to collaborate with some folks who wish to 'roll their own'. It is very
simple, too.
Obviously, car batteries are not the 9 volt jobs but I also now need about
10 car batteries, some for cars and others for other gear.
Is anyone interested in pursuing home made batteries further?
b
Posted by clare at snyder.on.ca on January 7, 2007, 8:44 pm
>Folks, the prices of any battery is just crazy. I use alot of d, aa, aaa
>and some aaaa and also alot of car batteries.
>I usually keep a supply of the smaller ones in the refrigerator but my
>supply is no more.
>I needed some 9 volt jobs the other day and was shocked (pardon pun) to find
>that they were almost $2.50 apiece.
>So, it made me think that a long time ago in my dark past, I had made a few
>car batteries and took notes, too. I cannot find the notes and would like
>to collaborate with some folks who wish to 'roll their own'. It is very
>simple, too.
>Obviously, car batteries are not the 9 volt jobs but I also now need about
>10 car batteries, some for cars and others for other gear.
>Is anyone interested in pursuing home made batteries further?
>b
You most certainly can NOT make them for the cost of buying them today
and have anything remotely dependable. 9 volt batteries better than
any you will make are routinely available for a buck, and often 2 for
a buck, at dollar stores across North America. They are not Duracells
or Energizers, but the DO work.
For car batteries, try the scrapper. Good used batteries often go for
$15 each - and are very often less than a year old.
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Posted by buffalo on January 7, 2007, 8:47 pm
Clare,
Read more carefully.
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<clare at snyder.on.ca> wrote in message
>>Folks, the prices of any battery is just crazy. I use alot of d, aa, aaa
>>and some aaaa and also alot of car batteries.
>>
>>I usually keep a supply of the smaller ones in the refrigerator but my
>>supply is no more.
>>
>>I needed some 9 volt jobs the other day and was shocked (pardon pun) to
>>find
>>that they were almost $2.50 apiece.
>>
>>So, it made me think that a long time ago in my dark past, I had made a
>>few
>>car batteries and took notes, too. I cannot find the notes and would like
>>to collaborate with some folks who wish to 'roll their own'. It is very
>>simple, too.
>>
>>Obviously, car batteries are not the 9 volt jobs but I also now need about
>>10 car batteries, some for cars and others for other gear.
>>
>>Is anyone interested in pursuing home made batteries further?
>>
>>b
>>
>>
> You most certainly can NOT make them for the cost of buying them today
> and have anything remotely dependable. 9 volt batteries better than
> any you will make are routinely available for a buck, and often 2 for
> a buck, at dollar stores across North America. They are not Duracells
> or Energizers, but the DO work.
> For car batteries, try the scrapper. Good used batteries often go for
> $15 each - and are very often less than a year old.
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>
Posted by hallerb@aol.com on January 7, 2007, 9:45 pm
my best friend made some car like batteries, he has a wind generator
with 14 foot blades.
he decided it was too much work and expense for the energy he stored
and changed gears so to speak.
he cast lead plates, refined lead and made the 2 different types of
lead for plates, bought battery boxes, plastic boxes for the units,
expermineted with diffferent type of seperators, and fomed cells, they
dont just magically come to life.... it was sopmething to see, lead
refining with chemicals bubbling and materials being refined. had to
have good ventilation to prevent lead poisioning and troubles some
gasses were dangerous like carbon monoxide, others flammable duruing
process. making batteries is a lot of work.
he collects old but still servicable car batteries, has about 12 to 14,
built a temp sensor for each battery when they fail completely they get
hot and he exchanges them at friendly garages for different
ones......... lots of folks like me toss old but still useabl;e
batteries, those who DONT want to get stranded. i give bill all my old
car batteries, since i went to replace before falure i have way less
failures of car alternators..... actually saves bucks.
on the windmill batrteries only last 3 to 4 years, her gets near that
using old car batteries at essentially no cost, but has to have a large
bank. that way they dont deep discharge.
if your seriously interested i might be able to get him to call you on
the phone he doesnt have and doesnt want internet access.:(
Posted by buffalo on January 7, 2007, 10:17 pm
Thanks, Hallerb.
Your second paragraph makes it sound wicked but it isn't. Casting lead
plates is as easy as can be. Buying Tupperware or dollar stock knockoffs
for battery boxes is easy and also cheap. Separators are cheap to make.
Lead fumes and CO are easy to handle or get rid of.
I have made car batteries before although it was many moons ago. EASY!
I cast some lead plates in a cornbread tin and made a number of them.
EASY!
Many years ago, every telegraph station along the line had batteries in
glass tubs. EASY!
There is sulphuric acid involved and that, too, is EASY to obtain and
handle. One can even make it but not too easily.
Thanks for the offer but perhaps, Clare may want to talk with him as he
thinks this is hard and not viable, for dry-cells, that is. Now, if your
friend is reconsidering building..... but then, he has no Inet.
b.
> my best friend made some car like batteries, he has a wind generator
> with 14 foot blades.
> he decided it was too much work and expense for the energy he stored
> and changed gears so to speak.
> he cast lead plates, refined lead and made the 2 different types of
> lead for plates, bought battery boxes, plastic boxes for the units,
> expermineted with diffferent type of seperators, and fomed cells, they
> dont just magically come to life.... it was sopmething to see, lead
> refining with chemicals bubbling and materials being refined. had to
> have good ventilation to prevent lead poisioning and troubles some
> gasses were dangerous like carbon monoxide, others flammable duruing
> process. making batteries is a lot of work.
> he collects old but still servicable car batteries, has about 12 to 14,
> built a temp sensor for each battery when they fail completely they get
> hot and he exchanges them at friendly garages for different
> ones......... lots of folks like me toss old but still useabl;e
> batteries, those who DONT want to get stranded. i give bill all my old
> car batteries, since i went to replace before falure i have way less
> failures of car alternators..... actually saves bucks.
> on the windmill batrteries only last 3 to 4 years, her gets near that
> using old car batteries at essentially no cost, but has to have a large
> bank. that way they dont deep discharge.
> if your seriously interested i might be able to get him to call you on
> the phone he doesnt have and doesnt want internet access.:(
>
>and some aaaa and also alot of car batteries.
>I usually keep a supply of the smaller ones in the refrigerator but my
>supply is no more.
>I needed some 9 volt jobs the other day and was shocked (pardon pun) to find
>that they were almost $2.50 apiece.
>So, it made me think that a long time ago in my dark past, I had made a few
>car batteries and took notes, too. I cannot find the notes and would like
>to collaborate with some folks who wish to 'roll their own'. It is very
>simple, too.
>Obviously, car batteries are not the 9 volt jobs but I also now need about
>10 car batteries, some for cars and others for other gear.
>Is anyone interested in pursuing home made batteries further?
>b