Posted by Jim Wilkins on January 5, 2008, 6:04 pm
> ..
> Sixteen cents per watt will be the magic number where the utilities
> start aggressively using pv for routine peaking.
> ...
> Don Lancaster
What do you think is the magic number for DIY home systems?
Jim Wilkins
Posted by Don Lancaster on January 5, 2008, 6:19 pm
Jim Wilkins wrote:
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>>..
>>Sixteen cents per watt will be the magic number where the utilities
>>start aggressively using pv for routine peaking.
>>...
>>Don Lancaster
>
>
> What do you think is the magic number for DIY home systems?
>
> Jim Wilkins
Much less than the utility magic number, of course.
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Posted by BradGuth on January 5, 2008, 1:17 pm
> Eeyore wrote:
> > Erdemal wrote:
> <snip> profitable solar + profitable energy storage
> >> As I already wrote many times, this would be a *revolution*
> >> we cant imagine or predict. It would *completely* change our
> >> societies. In a real free world, this could happen within
> >> ??five years??.
> > Tell me how it would be possible to build all the new factories
> > required to do that in 5 years.
> PV at $1/W is profitable, 'cheap' high capacity battery is
> profitable. *In_a_real_free_world* , if it's profitable it
> should be a 'gold rush'?
> Do you see the three basic assumptions I make?
> > The impact will be minimal for ages.
> Maybe? Time will tell.
There is no freaking maybe about it, as time has already told those of
us less snookered and least dumbfounded by what we've been continually
informed from those in charge of most everything, of those mostly
faith-based Semites cloaked as pretend atheists which couldn't
possibly stop lying their infomercial spewing butts off even if they
had to.
> If you're interested by what I think :):
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> I think that nearly everything is technologically ready even
> without these nanothings. After all it's only silicon: twenty
> square meter of ?10 micrometer amorphous silicon per household:
> only less than 1 kg of silicon.
> I think that there are a lot of mighty groups and lobbies(*)
> that are doing everything they can to slow things. I think
> they will fail. I think too that the first that will take
> the chance and go for it will win. There are signs for that,
> old energy groups are now in the hands of loosers and
> laggards: old european empires (BP, Shell, Total), Russia,
> Middle Eastern Kingdoms, much less than before in the USA,
> none in Japan, Korea, ...
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> (*) energy is huge thing, $10+ trillion world wide, employing
> millions of people; mighty states and most of the world
> oligarchies are build on that. I am an old hopeless
> paranoiac ;) yet I dont see them win.
> Erdy
The likes of Eeyore and Don Lancaster are each infowar members of
their infomercial spewing big-government, big-energy and of their
faith-based puppeteers doing all they possibly can in order to
plunder, pillage and rape mother Earth for all she's worth, and then
some. It's what such mainstream bigots and LLPOF rusemasters of their
Third Reich kind do best.
- Brad Guth
Posted by Eeyore on January 5, 2008, 5:27 pm
BradGuth wrote:
> The likes of Eeyore and Don Lancaster are each infowar members of
> their infomercial spewing big-government, big-energy and of their
> faith-based puppeteers doing all they possibly can in order to
> plunder, pillage and rape mother Earth for all she's worth, and then
> some. It's what such mainstream bigots and LLPOF rusemasters of their
> Third Reich kind do best.
And YOU are an idiot who freely mixes, fact fiction myth and rumour with
no apparenent ability to distinguish between them.
Graham
Posted by BradGuth on January 5, 2008, 11:43 pm
wrote:
> BradGuth wrote:
> > The likes of Eeyore and Don Lancaster are each infowar members of
> > their infomercial spewing big-government, big-energy and of their
> > faith-based puppeteers doing all they possibly can in order to
> > plunder, pillage and rape mother Earth for all she's worth, and then
> > some. It's what such mainstream bigots and LLPOF rusemasters of their
> > Third Reich kind do best.
> And YOU are an idiot who freely mixes, fact fiction myth and rumour with
> no apparenent ability to distinguish between them.
> Graham
Unlike yourself, I'll pretty much go along with the regular laws of
physics and whatever the best available science has to offer.
- Brad Guth
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> Sixteen cents per watt will be the magic number where the utilities
> start aggressively using pv for routine peaking.
> ...
> Don Lancaster