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Buloney!

The only reason the battery vendors take in wasted batteries is because they
have to. Any industrial battery distributors here won't touch a used battery
unless it is part of the new sales contract to dispose of them.

 

wrote:


Scrapyard up here will buy the (lead acid)batteries for $
.25 a pound.
The lead is valuable.
Recycling NiCads is not as lucrative.

 



   Baloney yourself, top poster!  (read below.  You are welcome to rebut
with actual information or actual personal experience)

In the job I recently retired from, I dealt with disposing of used batteries
of various chemistries for over 20 years.  I know a thing or two about the
market for used batteries.  Nothing I wrote below is "baloney", at least not
as it applies to the United States.

Dead lead acid batteries ARE WORTH MONEY for their valuable lead content.
Anytime I bought lead acid batteries, I was charged a "core" charge if I did
not return a dead battery for recyclingl.  This was not a
government-mandated charge, even though some retailers will imply that it
is.  It was to make up for the loss of the scrap value of the old battery
that the retailer lost if I decided to sell the old battery myself.  In
fact, sometimes I ended up with extra dead lead acid batteries.  I could
have gone to the bother of selling them, but it was easier to just give them
to my local battery retailer, who was happy (and eager) to take all he could
get.

I also had the problem of disposing of all of the Nicad and NIMH batteries
for a medium size Police and Fire-Rescue department.  At first, that was a
problem.  I paid up to a dollar a pound for disposal.  Over the last few
years,(part of the "baloney" I wrote below)  I was able to give them to a
company who supplied special packaging material and paid all shipping
charges.  I have shipped them thousands of pounds of batteries over the
years.  Here is their URL  (more "baloney"?) http://www.call2recycle.org/  
Obviously, they are making money on them or they would lhave gone broke
years ago.

Conclusion: The materials in used batteries are valuable; valuable enough to
pay for their disposal with profit left over.  Disposal of used batteries
need not be a problem..

So Joesepi top poster guy, do you have any more wisdom to add to the
conversation?

Vaughn

 

Yes,  Key words "Give", "Scrap". We had battery dealers that used to take
old batteries for recycling too. It was a dead loss and nobody will take
them anymore, unless they have too. Two more key words you used "retired",
"disposal"

 



   You are a hard-headed type aren't you?  I said that scrap batteries have
scrap VALUE  (Key word: "VALUE")  Several have agreed (Key words: "Several",
"Agreed").  I even gave you evidence for this in the form of a current link
(Key words: "Evidence", "Link").

   Yes I am recently retired (Key word: "Recently"), but I keep in touch
there and nothing there has changed.  I notice that you have given no
support to your own version of reality, nor has anyone else.   Two more key
words,  "No", "Support".

   My original post was partially in response to another poster's mention of
a "battery recycling fiasco".  Nobody (not even you) has given the slightest
evidence that any such "battery recycling fiasco" exists or that battery
recycling represents any significant barrier to the development of EVs.

Vaughn