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Posted by News on August 13, 2010, 3:40 am
 



AN IDIOT TOP POSTER!



Posted by Bob F on August 13, 2010, 12:19 am
 


News wrote:

I didn't top post. You did. Moron.



Posted by vaughn on August 12, 2010, 8:11 am
 



Back when I had a job, my round trip commute was about 21 miles.  I would guess
that much of the workforce lives within at most a 50 mile round trip,  With
daily charging and real-life conditions including climate control and stop & go
traffic, that should come to a 50 to 70% DOD.  Over 8 years, that is truly a
bunch of cycles!

The question was asked (and answered) about AC.  Heating is perhaps a more
critical question.  How is that done?

Vaughn



Posted by Michael B on August 12, 2010, 4:59 pm
 


I've seen a...gadget..It was a wide pipe within another pipe very
close to the same size. Very little space between them. But there
were potholes drilled into the inner one, and it was on a motor shaft.
When the inner one was spinning, and water injected into the space,
water came out steaming.

Interesting.

Posted by News on August 12, 2010, 6:08 pm
 



I've seen a...gadget..It was a wide pipe within another pipe very
close to the same size. Very little space between them. But there
were potholes drilled into the inner one, and it was on a motor shaft.
When the inner one was spinning, and water injected into the space,
water came out steaming.

Interesting.
<<<<<<
The hydrosonic pump.
http://www.rexresearch.com/griggs/griggs.htm

You can buy one. Many claim it is an over unity device.

The company:
 http://www.hydrodynamics.com/

- Hydrosonic Pump Boiler Developed by Hydro Dynamics in Georgia, USA, and
currently only in commercial use, this ingenious boiler uses an electric
pump to create shock waves which in turn heat water. The resulting energy
from shock waves is absorbed by water and subsequently heats the water
turning to steam. A number of public buildings in Georgia have installed
hydrosonic pumps and have reduced their heating and DHW bills by 30%.
Compared to UK prices of natural gas, hydrosonic boilers are more expensive
to run, although cheaper than electrical element boilers.

The basis of operation is a rotating cylinder within a cylinder that
harnesses the power of cavitation. This controlled cavitation generates
shock waves, which convert mechanical energy into heat energy.

The Hydrosonic Pump power generator operates by taking water into the
machine housing, where it is passed over a spinning cylinder. Holes in the
cylinder, clearance between the cylinder and the housing and the cylinder
rotational speed create a pressure differences within the water where tiny
bubbles form and collapse. These collapsing bubbles generate shock waves
that heat the water.
The process is scale free. The Hydrosonic Pump generator heats water in a
totally different way and creates the heat in a totally different place -
inside the liquid where it is needed. The Hydrosonic Pump has no heat
transfer surfaces - the metal surfaces are actually cooler than the water.
Scale will not migrate from a hotter liquid and build up on a cooler metal
surface.

The Vizor Corporation in Moldavia sell a version of the Hydrosonic Pump the
Yusmar, that operates on similar principles as the Hydro Dynamics unit with
minor differences. Many thousands of small domestic and larger commercial
units have been sold in Moldova and Russia. The efficiency is said to be
less than the American machines.

Why they are not widespread is beyond me.


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