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Posted by BobG on February 2, 2008, 8:14 am
My buddy Bill sent me this link. This guy has a PV powered
electrolyzer, 10x 1000 gal tanks full of hydrogen. Looks outstanding.
Posted by Martin Riddle on February 2, 2008, 2:49 pm
Looks like lot's of freebies there.
Nice to be connected.
> My buddy Bill sent me this link. This guy has a PV powered > electrolyzer, 10x 1000 gal tanks full of hydrogen. Looks outstanding. >
Posted by Ken Maltby on February 2, 2008, 11:51 pm
>> My buddy Bill sent me this link. This guy has a PV powered >> electrolyzer, 10x 1000 gal tanks full of hydrogen. Looks outstanding. >>
> Looks like lot's of freebies there. > Nice to be connected.
The freebies are coming from my Federal tax dollars, my property
tax supported "Higher Education" institutions, corporate "Gifts" donated/
or extorted, all of which are given to this guy and his ilk as they complain
how our terribly greedy society and capitalist system is keeping the
world from the "Green" technology that would save the earth.
The obvious fact is, that the home and cars that he enjoys are all
so expensive that those of us without government or corporate grants
could never afford the things he is demonstrating.
The "10x 1000 gal tanks full of hydrogen" that he even admits
equates to only 40 Gal of gasoline. He has made an interesting
use of a "free" low density energy storage, to provide for topping
off his battery storage, using a noncompetitive exotic device ( the
hydrogen fuel cell, check out the actual cost per watt, especially
if you have to replace the catalyst at the end of its lifetime. )
And that is only if you buy his idea that he is getting "Free"
Hydrogen, with his setup. Just a little less "Free" than the PV
electricity used to make it; I would guess.
I wish I could get everyone else to pay for all my toys, but I
would be hampered by a since of personal integrity. He not
only has gotten his toys paid for by us , but gets many claiming
he is a champion of "self-reliance" (how ironic), and a savior of
the planet.
Luck;
Ken
Posted by Neon John on February 3, 2008, 1:32 am
> I wish I could get everyone else to pay for all my toys, but I >would be hampered by a since of personal integrity. He not >only has gotten his toys paid for by us , but gets many claiming >he is a champion of "self-reliance" (how ironic), and a savior of >the planet.
Amen, Bro. I never have figured out how those people could in good conscience
take
that kind of middle-class welfare. Seems morally bankrupt to me. And I just bet
that out of the other side of his mouth comes bitching about high taxes....
John
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Posted by Daiganx1@gmail.com on February 5, 2008, 2:27 pm
( the
hydrogen fuel cell, check out the actual cost per watt, especially
if you have to replace the catalyst at the end of its lifetime. )
And that is only if you buy his idea that he is getting "Free"
Hydrogen, with his setup. Just a little less "Free" than the PV
electricity used to make it; I would guess.
1: Quote
( hydrogen fuel cell, check out the actual cost per
watt)
Dunno the cost per wat (13amps 12v)but at 289.00 its a good deal to
get 40 to 70% better fuel mileage.
2: (especially
if you have to replace the catalyst at the end of its lifetime)
The "Catalyst" is actually electrolyte and is a mix of baking soda and
distilled water. (but if this .69cent gallon of distilled water is too
much for you then don't read any further)
3: (And that is only if you buy his idea that he is getting
"Free"
Hydrogen, with his setup. Just a little less "Free" than the PV
electricity used to make it; I would guess.)
Bad guess the cost of a PV system is not even close to the amount of
damage done by the coal fired plants that litter the country. the
diesel spent mining, transporting and burning the coal.
y'all said the property taxes......last year the homeowners insurance
industry profited 60 billion and you bitch about the oil company
making a couple of bil. you really have some messed up priorities and
i am guessing you are a little left wing with the "Whats in it for me"
resonance in your post. the "free hydrogen" comes in the form of a
renewable fuel that cant be taxed. you get better fuel mileage,
produce next to 0 emissions and get a tax break for buying it. where
is the drawback........like the cost of a PV system when your
figguring the cost per watt are you considering the state rebate
program......my guess is no cuz you looked at the cost of the unit and
said thats to much for the first year.....instead figgure it this way
the cost per watt spread out over 20 years and compare it aginst the 2
to 400% increases that have taken place.........
> electrolyzer, 10x 1000 gal tanks full of hydrogen. Looks outstanding.
>