Posted by vaughn on July 2, 2010, 12:33 pm
> Looks as though there is some "packing and handling" included in the
> sunelec calculation.
That would be perfectly logical.
PV panels typically don't come from the factory individually packed for
shipment. The cost and labor to pack one panel would be about the same as that
for multiple panels. That is one reason why 1) Shipping PV panels ain't cheap
2) They can offer a much better price for pallet lots and 3) I suggested a road
trip to Miami for the OP.
Vaughn
Posted by Josepi on July 2, 2010, 1:38 pm
Out of three shipments of panels I have received, over the years, the top
panel was always broken.
I got screwed on the one shipment from SC Solar (looks like they shipped it
broken and knew it..phoney insurance and the whole SCAM incl. changed
owners) and one the vendor stood good for it and gave me credit.
Make sure you don't remove it from the shipping dock without a writing on
both copies of the Bill of Lading, "damaged panel". Once you put it in your
truck, it's yours and you broke it.
Vaugh is very correct on that. Skids ship eaier. All panels are strapped
together for a firm bundle and if tall enough another skid cannot be placed
on top. Watch for bottom panels forklift damage too.
Either make a spec / agreement $$$ to cover both sides of the stack with
1/2 - 3/4" plywood and band the whole stack or pick them up yourself.
.
That would be perfectly logical.
PV panels typically don't come from the factory individually packed for
shipment. The cost and labor to pack one panel would be about the same as
that
for multiple panels. That is one reason why 1) Shipping PV panels ain't
cheap
2) They can offer a much better price for pallet lots and 3) I suggested a
road
trip to Miami for the OP.
Vaughn
> Looks as though there is some "packing and handling" included in the
> sunelec calculation
Posted by cheap jalous American are real on July 17, 2010, 7:11 pm
> --
> MikeK
>>
>>>
>>> amdx wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi guys,
>>>> I see Harbor freight has their 45 Watt solar panels on sale.
>>>> Think The would last 20 years on the roof in Florida.
>>>> Thinking about using it to drive solar water heater pump.
>>
>> There is really no reason to mess with HF stuff when real brand name
>> merchandise is selling at record low prices. If you are anywhere in the
>> south half of Florida, jump in your car and take a trip to Sun
>> Electronics in downtown Miami. http://sunelec.com/
>>
>> Vaughn
>>
>>
> Wow, a 40 watt unit for $04 + $4.00 shipping.
> MikeK
Most of you here don't have experience living without power for months and
years, therefore you are not qualified to give any advice.
You need a minimum of 4000 watt daily, and a good set of energy storage
bank, to my knowledge there is no company that can beat my company's high
capacity batteries. Your Marine or deep cycle batteries are still weak in
comparision with our batteries because, yours can't start a car while ours
(same size) can start a car/truck and can run a microwave or powertool.
Posted by You on July 18, 2010, 8:00 pm
"cheap jalous American are real scammers"
> Most of you here don't have experience living without power for months and
> years, therefore you are not qualified to give any advice.
>
> You need a minimum of 4000 watt daily, and a good set of energy storage
> bank, to my knowledge there is no company that can beat my company's high
> capacity batteries. Your Marine or deep cycle batteries are still weak in
> comparision with our batteries because, yours can't start a car while ours
> (same size) can start a car/truck and can run a microwave or powertool.
So, if your batteries are so GREAT, and that much better than anyone
else's, why are you not the only Battery OEM in the world? Publish your
Battery Spec's so we can see, what they are.... Inquiring Minds want to
know.... Do your batteries weigh more than everyone else's? Are the
plates thicker, or do they have more surface area? Tell us all, jusr why
we should listen to your pitch, over know Battery OEM's like Surrite, or
Trogen?
Posted by vaughn on July 18, 2010, 8:10 pm
> Most of you here don't have experience living without power for months and
> years, therefore you are not qualified to give any advice.
Oh? You can somehow peer into your computer monitor and see the backgrounds of
all the folks who post here? Do you do that with or without wearing your
tinfoil cap?
> You need a minimum of 4000 watt daily
Clearly you know nothing, or you would know the difference between Watts and
Watt-hours.
Spammers are the worst kind of scum.
Vaughn
> sunelec calculation.