Posted by Morris Dovey on September 1, 2009, 5:12 am
I wasn't very happy with the amount of energy being reflected away by
the target pipe at the focus of the parabolic trough shown at
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/Projects/Stirling/Heat.html
So I picked a few brains (most helpful were daestrom and frogwatcher) on
alt.solar.thermal (and had some discussion on alt.energy.homepower) and
came up with a way to bounce photons off the collector pipe surface more
than once before they had a chance to get away.
An experiment to test the idea was easy to put together. The results
were most satisfying and led me to conclude that reflection can be used
to produce near total absorption at the target pipe.
I thought the method might be patentable, and visited a local patent
attorney to start the patent search/filing process - which did turn up
an (expired) prior patent, so I won't be filing.
I'be cut and pasted some of the material I thought folks here might find
interesting (including photos of my simple experiment) from my notes for
the patent attorney into the web page at
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/Projects/Stirling/HTAbsorber/
and I have a batch of drawings and some calculation programs that I can
make available on other web pages if there's interest.
Many thanks to all who helped and encouraged!
--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/
Posted by News on September 1, 2009, 12:05 pm
>I wasn't very happy with the amount of energy being reflected away by the
>target pipe at the focus of the parabolic trough shown at
> http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/Projects/Stirling/Heat.html
> So I picked a few brains (most helpful were daestrom and frogwatcher) on
> alt.solar.thermal (and had some discussion on alt.energy.homepower) and
> came up with a way to bounce photons off the collector pipe surface more
> than once before they had a chance to get away.
> An experiment to test the idea was easy to put together. The results were
> most satisfying and led me to conclude that reflection can be used to
> produce near total absorption at the target pipe.
> I thought the method might be patentable, and visited a local patent
> attorney to start the patent search/filing process - which did turn up an
> (expired) prior patent, so I won't be filing.
> I'be cut and pasted some of the material I thought folks here might find
> interesting (including photos of my simple experiment) from my notes for
> the patent attorney into the web page at
> http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/Projects/Stirling/HTAbsorber/
> and I have a batch of drawings and some calculation programs that I can
> make available on other web pages if there's interest.
> Many thanks to all who helped and encouraged!
> --
> Morris Dovey
> DeSoto Solar
> DeSoto, Iowa USA
> http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/
Terrific stuff. :)
Posted by z on September 1, 2009, 2:52 pm
>
> http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/Projects/Stirling/HTAbsorber/
>
> and I have a batch of drawings and some calculation programs that I can
> make available on other web pages if there's interest.
>
> Many thanks to all who helped and encouraged!
>
Thats really cool -- or hot I guess!
Man i'm tempted to build one just to screw around with. Looks like you
could easily adapt it to make a portable shishkabab griller :)
Grease on the reflective surface probably not agood idea though
nice job!
-zachary
Posted by daestrom on September 3, 2009, 5:46 pm
z wrote:
>> http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/Projects/Stirling/HTAbsorber/
>>
>> and I have a batch of drawings and some calculation programs that I can
>> make available on other web pages if there's interest.
>>
>> Many thanks to all who helped and encouraged!
>>
>
> Thats really cool -- or hot I guess!
>
> Man i'm tempted to build one just to screw around with. Looks like you
> could easily adapt it to make a portable shishkabab griller :)
>
> Grease on the reflective surface probably not agood idea though
>
> nice job!
>
> -zachary
"FIRE in the hole!!!" or would the grease be, "FIRE in the SLOT!!!" :-)
daestrom
Posted by Ken Maltby on September 1, 2009, 3:32 pm
>I wasn't very happy with the amount of energy being reflected away by the
>target pipe at the focus of the parabolic trough shown at
> http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/Projects/Stirling/Heat.html
> So I picked a few brains (most helpful were daestrom and frogwatcher) on
> alt.solar.thermal (and had some discussion on alt.energy.homepower) and
> came up with a way to bounce photons off the collector pipe surface more
> than once before they had a chance to get away.
> An experiment to test the idea was easy to put together. The results were
> most satisfying and led me to conclude that reflection can be used to
> produce near total absorption at the target pipe.
> I thought the method might be patentable, and visited a local patent
> attorney to start the patent search/filing process - which did turn up an
> (expired) prior patent, so I won't be filing.
> I'be cut and pasted some of the material I thought folks here might find
> interesting (including photos of my simple experiment) from my notes for
> the patent attorney into the web page at
> http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/Projects/Stirling/HTAbsorber/
> and I have a batch of drawings and some calculation programs that I can
> make available on other web pages if there's interest.
> Many thanks to all who helped and encouraged!
> --
> Morris Dovey
> DeSoto Solar
> DeSoto, Iowa USA
> http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/
Great post, just what I would hope for in these newsgroups!!
Brilliant research and exploitation of practical thinking, directly
applicable to efforts of those of us who follow the postings here.
I guess Usenet isn't quite dead yet!
Luck;
Ken
P.S. I'll have some questions and additional thoughts, later
after the Kudos die down.
>target pipe at the focus of the parabolic trough shown at
> http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/Projects/Stirling/Heat.html
> So I picked a few brains (most helpful were daestrom and frogwatcher) on
> alt.solar.thermal (and had some discussion on alt.energy.homepower) and
> came up with a way to bounce photons off the collector pipe surface more
> than once before they had a chance to get away.
> An experiment to test the idea was easy to put together. The results were
> most satisfying and led me to conclude that reflection can be used to
> produce near total absorption at the target pipe.
> I thought the method might be patentable, and visited a local patent
> attorney to start the patent search/filing process - which did turn up an
> (expired) prior patent, so I won't be filing.
> I'be cut and pasted some of the material I thought folks here might find
> interesting (including photos of my simple experiment) from my notes for
> the patent attorney into the web page at
> http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/Projects/Stirling/HTAbsorber/
> and I have a batch of drawings and some calculation programs that I can
> make available on other web pages if there's interest.
> Many thanks to all who helped and encouraged!
> --
> Morris Dovey
> DeSoto Solar
> DeSoto, Iowa USA
> http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/