Posted by Bob F on January 25, 2008, 1:26 pm
Really? Can you explain why you would say this? I thought copper was rated for
significantly higher pressure/temperature operation.
Bob
> It's the copper pressure limits I would worry about.
>> Are you going to be within the PEX temp/pressure limits?
>>
>> Bob F
>>
>>> Yup O2 barrier. I would use covert to copper through the roof. My system
>>> uses 50%/50% glycol/water.
>>>
>>> Thx
>>>
>>>
>>>> By oxy, I hope you mean O2 barrier. Just watch for long term UV exposure.
>>>> Other than that PEX is very tough. You may not want it to freeze with water
>>>> in it though.
>>>>
>>>>> I'm building a house right now myself, and would like to put solar hot
>>>>> water panels on the roof in the future. Right now I would like to run
>>>>> lines from the boiler room to the attic for future use. Can I use 3/4'
>>>>> Oxy Pex for this purpose?
>>>>> TIA
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
Posted by Arnold Walker on January 25, 2008, 3:15 pm
Copper pressure limits ....maybe you should explain why a glycol/water
solution in a solar panel would be any where near 250 PSI for K grade used
in refrigation or 200 PSI for
for the softer copper used to pipe in icemaker or similar water piping.When
a 100psi is 388F on pure water
and higher when you add in glycol.Steamers,heating/AC
engineers/installers,and mechanics might wonder more about the PEX melting
at 250F and about 20 PSI roughly depending on glycol %.
In otherwords when the copper is dieing what is the story much earlier on
the PEX.
If the guy was using ammonia instead of glycol I would worry.But he is
not.....
> It's the copper pressure limits I would worry about.
>> Are you going to be within the PEX temp/pressure limits?
>>
>> Bob F
>>
>>> Yup O2 barrier. I would use covert to copper through the roof. My
>>> system uses 50%/50% glycol/water.
>>>
>>> Thx
>>>
>>>
>>>> By oxy, I hope you mean O2 barrier. Just watch for long term UV
>>>> exposure. Other than that PEX is very tough. You may not want it to
>>>> freeze with water in it though.
>>>>
>>>>> I'm building a house right now myself, and would like to put solar hot
>>>>> water panels on the roof in the future. Right now I would like to run
>>>>> lines from the boiler room to the attic for future use. Can I use
>>>>> 3/4' Oxy Pex for this purpose?
>>>>> TIA
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
Posted by Niels Erik on January 26, 2008, 2:29 am
I think Arnold is right.
In fact PEX is NOT allowed in solar panels in this country.
The typical stagnation temp of a solar panel is close to 200 deg C (350 deg
F) and that is above the max temperature for PEX.
As piping you may use copper, black iron or stainless steel.
You may not use galvanized pipe in combination with glycol.
regards Niels
> Copper pressure limits ....maybe you should explain why a glycol/water
> solution in a solar panel would be any where near 250 PSI for K grade used
> in refrigation or 200 PSI for
> for the softer copper used to pipe in icemaker or similar water
> piping.When a 100psi is 388F on pure water
> and higher when you add in glycol.Steamers,heating/AC
> engineers/installers,and mechanics might wonder more about the PEX melting
> at 250F and about 20 PSI roughly depending on glycol %.
> In otherwords when the copper is dieing what is the story much earlier on
> the PEX.
> If the guy was using ammonia instead of glycol I would worry.But he is
> not.....
>> It's the copper pressure limits I would worry about.
>>
>>> Are you going to be within the PEX temp/pressure limits?
>>>
>>> Bob F
>>>
>>>> Yup O2 barrier. I would use covert to copper through the roof. My
>>>> system uses 50%/50% glycol/water.
>>>>
>>>> Thx
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> By oxy, I hope you mean O2 barrier. Just watch for long term UV
>>>>> exposure. Other than that PEX is very tough. You may not want it to
>>>>> freeze with water in it though.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm building a house right now myself, and would like to put solar
>>>>>> hot water panels on the roof in the future. Right now I would like
>>>>>> to run lines from the boiler room to the attic for future use. Can I
>>>>>> use 3/4' Oxy Pex for this purpose?
>>>>>> TIA
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
Posted by greif on January 29, 2008, 11:03 pm
just run several 2" pvc pipes in the roughed in walls and cap them.
when time comes to install sytem you just run the insulated copper
pipes right down the pvc, that's what I did 6 years ago when I built
and 2 years ago installed my system
>> Are you going to be within the PEX temp/pressure limits?
>>
>> Bob F
>>
>>> Yup O2 barrier. I would use covert to copper through the roof. My system
>>> uses 50%/50% glycol/water.
>>>
>>> Thx
>>>
>>>
>>>> By oxy, I hope you mean O2 barrier. Just watch for long term UV exposure.
>>>> Other than that PEX is very tough. You may not want it to freeze with water
>>>> in it though.
>>>>
>>>>> I'm building a house right now myself, and would like to put solar hot
>>>>> water panels on the roof in the future. Right now I would like to run
>>>>> lines from the boiler room to the attic for future use. Can I use 3/4'
>>>>> Oxy Pex for this purpose?
>>>>> TIA
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>