Posted by Guido on May 2, 2010, 3:30 am
David O'Daniel wrote:
> It seems that a network could be set up of such systems to then use the
> light to heat water at night to make steam & turn turbines & make
> electricity. And of course in day, use the direct sunlight to do it.
> while other systems ship other sunlight to other parts of the globe
> still in darkness?
>
> Any flaw in this idea? Other than resistance to new technology & cost of
> building it?
Ever look through thick glass? How it looks green? Now imagine that
glass being miles thick. The light diminishes into uselessness. The
reason fiber optic networks work is that at intervals where the light is
about to become useless for data transmission, they put in a
relay-amplifier, to boost it. These amps would reduce efficiency in what
you propose so much as to make it cost prohibitive.
Posted by David O'Daniel on May 2, 2010, 6:20 pm
<Guido wrote>:
"Ever look through thick glass? How it looks green? Now imagine that
glass being miles thick. The light diminishes into uselessness. The
reason fiber optic networks work is that at intervals where the light is
about to become useless for data transmission, they put in a
relay-amplifier, to boost it. These amps would reduce efficiency in what
you propose so much as to make it cost prohibitive."
<Bo>: Thanks for responding, Guido. Yes, even in air there is filtering
down of light. Thus why I was thinking of the tubes being used be sealed
vacuums, with only the lenses at either ends being direct material.
Though then the sides would still absorb some of the light energy as
heat as the light expanded, I suppose.
So there would be loss unless the light could be focused to a pin-point
for the full spectrum of sunlight or the reflective surface so efficient
as to absorb a minimal amount as heat. Also then, the straighter the
tube, it would seem the less light would hit the sides but that is just
an assumption & depending on how narrow the light can be focused. Though
perhaps even if only a limited wavelength could be send for miles in a
straight line, could it then still be useful on the other end to
generate electricity or at least use as light directly for such as
street-lights?
Perhaps the heat on the tube itself could be made useful, at least in
winter. Its still an idea in progress and again, probably just
speculation on an idea that will never really be even considered to be
built anyways. Just thinking.
Bo
Posted by ralleyrat on May 2, 2010, 10:35 pm
On Apr 28, 6:27am, Bojut...@webtv.net (David O'Daniel) wrote:
> Hi, me again. I posted several things a while back. Got another
> idea/question, if it could work.
> A. For solar energy, including focusing lenses & mirror arrays (that
> Spain & also Israel now, HAVE made work), someone is always shooting
> them down, saying it can't work, it is not always daylight.
> B. Fiber-optics have been around now for years even decads, including I
> believe, piping in light from outside, by I assume some lens, then
> through fiber-optics through a pinhole or straw at least sized hole down
> through the building & then expanded back out into room lighting at lest
> on a limited scale. I assume that this idea never caught on for some
> reason & ppl are still using electricity to run lights in the day time,
> maybe too expensive to build such systems through a building?
> C. So then shouldn't lenses & maybe also mirror arrays focusing
> sunlight, send light from one part of the country/globe through a
> fiber-optic cable or a simple straight hole through a pipe (maybe a
> mirrored/polished interior pipe), to then provide light to areas during
> night?
> It seems that a network could be set up of such systems to then use the
> light to heat water at night to make steam & turn turbines & make
> electricity. And of course in day, use the direct sunlight to do it.
> while other systems ship other sunlight to other parts of the globe
> still in darkness?
> Any flaw in this idea? Other than resistance to new technology & cost of
> building it?
> Thanks in advance for any help.
> Bo
Lotsa flaws. - Learn more optics and physics.
Those 'tube's only work for short distances and limited power
densities.
> light to heat water at night to make steam & turn turbines & make
> electricity. And of course in day, use the direct sunlight to do it.
> while other systems ship other sunlight to other parts of the globe
> still in darkness?
>
> Any flaw in this idea? Other than resistance to new technology & cost of
> building it?