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Posted by BobG on February 26, 2009, 7:36 pm

Is this a new car or a used car? I figure it takes about $000 a year
to run a car 15 or 20 thousand miles a year. How do you get it to pay
back in a year again?

Posted by Tim Jackson on February 26, 2009, 9:18 pm
BobG wrote:

It's a used car. Most miles are on my customers' behalf.  I bill my
customers a standard rate per mile plus a fixed charge per job.  It
usually takes something like a year - 18 months, I haven't done the
figures recently, I've been trading for over 30 years.  It's probably
around the high end since fuel prices went up.  Probably time I put my
rates up too.

It still works out cheaper to my customers than me billing them the
going rate for a new company car.  Hell, the (UK) income tax alone on a
company car would buy me a fresh used car every year.


Posted by Winston on February 27, 2009, 6:59 am
 Tim Jackson wrote:

And a cab ride to and from work would cost me U$00 a day.
24K a year buys a pretty nice car, even now!



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Posted by BobG on February 27, 2009, 7:26 pm
How about this business model for a cab company: ShareACab... never
pay more than $.50 a mile. You get a bunch of those 15 passenger
Sprinter vans with the 5 cyl diesel, hire drivers and dispatchers. One
van goes N and S like an elevator, the other goes E and W. Every
customer has a card with a mad stripe. You call the dispatcher and say
come and get me at x and I'm going to y, and the dispatcher or a
computer decide to assign the fare to the closest van going the right
direction. Its like elevator algorithm. If the 1st customer gets on in
the S end of town and goes all the way to the N end of town with no
other fares on board, he pays $.50 a mile... worst case. If a dozen
other guys get on and off on the way to the N end of town, when cust 1
swipes his card when he gets off, he might only be paying $.05 cents a
mile. The fare per passenger mile is always averaged over the number
of passengers.

Posted by Tim Jackson on February 27, 2009, 9:54 pm
 BobG wrote:

I think maybe this poster "has a card with a mad [sic] stripe".
For a start elevator algorithms don't charge pointlessly up and down
when they have no 'fares'. If the are in a good mood they park at
strategic intervals, if not they sulk in the sub-basement and go "out of
service".  That's probably pretty much what real cabs do.

How does this make money for the cab company? During rush-hour most of
the cab companies around here have their 15-seaters out doing pick-up
runs for the local factories.  That has all the benefits plus it takes
advantage of the fact that most people are doing the same route at the
same time every day, and that there are concentrations of routes at one
or other end of the trip, ie the workplace.

And to the OP, costing your car's ROI you need to apportion a notional
part of your pay that covers commuting costs into the equation.  Just
because your employer doesn't explicitly pay out for it, and it isn't
tax deductible doesn't mean it isn't a real return. You are presumably
commuting a large distance because you get a better job, a better
quality of life, whatever so you have to factor in that as a benefit
achieved by the car.  As for me I work from home, the meter starts
ticking when I roll out of bed.  Makes the maths easy.


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