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Posted by Leonard Abbott on March 14, 2009, 2:12 pm
 
  (Fay)
President Obama's biofuel and oil policy is on a collision course to a
national catastrophe. Yet, the alarms are not sounding and the red
lights are not flashing.

 At the subsidy of 51 per gallon, this amount of ethanol
production costs taxpayers over $ Billion in 2008.
The ethanol future looks much worse. The 'Energy Independence and
Security Act of 2007' required maximum ethanol production of 2.35
million barrels per day by 2022. But, this amount of ethanol
production will require the entire corn crop in the US, every kernel of
corn.  


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len=If leaves and grass cuttings were turned into ethanol from every
city and small town America's energy crunch would be over,

It would not cost the taxpayer a thin dime, because grass and leaves are
presently a nuisance, and getting rid of them is presently expensive..

Instead of paying to dispose of leaves and grass, in expensive
landfills, every city large or small could make a prophit by selling
ETHANOL on the open market.

For more free ethanol sewer pants could produce ethanol from human wast,
there are plants in California doing that today. I HELPED BUILD ONE.

Sewer plants are also a nuisance, because of the smell, the smell is
eliminated, when sewer water is turned into ethanol.

It will have to be done on a local level, because the presently liberal
controlled Gov is too stupid to get anything done relating to energy.


lenny

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Posted by Richard W. on March 14, 2009, 3:25 pm
 




For more free ethanol sewer pants could produce ethanol from human wast,
there are plants in California doing that today. I HELPED BUILD ONE.


Do you have any more info  on this?

Richard W.



Posted by Leonard Abbott on March 14, 2009, 11:13 pm
  
For more free ethanol sewer pants could produce ethanol from human wast,
there are plants in California doing that today. I HELPED BUILD ONE.
Do you have any more info on this?
Richard W.

LEN =in the 80s I ran a crane pouring concrete, for a company building a
sewer plant in El toro California, I was told the equipment we were
installing was to make ethanol to run all the power equipment.

CONTACT THE CITY OF EL TORO FOR MORE INFO.


Posted by Don T on March 14, 2009, 5:40 pm
   (Fay )
President Obama's biofuel and oil policy is on a collision course to a
national catastrophe. Yet, the alarms are not sounding and the red
lights are not flashing.

At the subsidy of 51 per gallon, this amount of ethanol
production costs taxpayers over $ Billion in 2008.
The ethanol future looks much worse. The 'Energy Independence and
Security Act of 2007' required maximum ethanol production of 2.35
million barrels per day by 2022. But, this amount of ethanol
production will require the entire corn crop in the US, every kernel of
corn.


---------------------------------------------
len=If leaves and grass cuttings were turned into ethanol from every
city and small town America's energy crunch would be over,

It would not cost the taxpayer a thin dime, because grass and leaves are
presently a nuisance, and getting rid of them is presently expensive..
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 Ever see a mulching mower? Ever stop to  -think-  that leaves and grass are
the result of plants taking nutrients from the soil they grow in and
changing decomposed rock into biomass?  If every single leaf and blade of
grass was removed from every square foot of lawn in America it wouldn't be
long before the demand for oil based fertilizers went through the roof.
Better to mulch those lawn wastes and use the oil for fuel that to fuck up a
billion years of ecology and soil building by nature's way. Natural
decomposition of leaves and grasses and dead dogs and cats.


 You eco freaks never let a bad idea stand in your way do you.

--


Don Thompson

Stolen from Dan:  "Just thinking, besides, I watched 2 dogs mating once,
and that makes me an expert. "

There is nothing more frightening than active ignorance.
~Goethe

It is a worthy thing to fight for one's freedom;
it is another sight finer to fight for another man's.
~Mark Twain





Posted by vaughn on March 14, 2009, 6:05 pm
 

True, mulching is better than collection.  In my neck of the woods, you
seldom see piles of grass clippings waiting for pickup any more.  That said,
there is still plenty of vegetation that is routinely collected and disposed
of.  In my county, much of it is composted, but I am willing to bet that
landfills are the most common destination for that stuff today.

I am no chemist, but I am willing to bet that there is a good reason why we
are not turning that biomass into fuel today.

Vaughn

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