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Posted by Leonard Abbott on March 14, 2009, 11:35 pm
 
Ethonol is not used as fertelizer, the phosphate from decaying plant
life is the chemical compond that fertelizes.

the Grass and leaves will decay wheather we use the Ethonol or not.
presently the ethonol in land fills is an inviromental problem, save the
ecology and burn the ethonol for fuel.

One of the problems with sewer plants, they deposit too much phosphate
into the soil rivers and streams.

While making Ethonol the Fosfate produced could be used to replace any
fertelizer lost in making ethonol.

The grass and leaves dumped into landfils already produce ethonol, we
dont use it, we just let it contaminate the underground water table or
dump it into the atmosphere..


Posted by Frank on March 15, 2009, 12:12 am
 
Leonard Abbott wrote:

No, methane:
http://www.epa.gov/lmop/
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/14/nyregion/nyregionspecial2/14Rmethane.html

Posted by harry on March 27, 2009, 8:04 pm
 
The energy available in grass etc does not come from the soil, it
comes from sunlight. The plant uses the sunlight +CO2  from the
atmosphere+ water to make hydro-carbon fuels. Ie the leaf & other
parts of the plant.  Minute traces of nitrogen, potassium and
phosphorus are needed from the soil.  These can be recycled from the
detrius from the ethanol plant
You are a worthy example of active ignorance.

Posted by Don T on March 27, 2009, 8:24 pm
 
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You are a worthy example of active ignorance.

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 Coming from you that is most definitely a compliment. Now go back and tell
us all exactly which two -different- refrigerant gasses are -always- used
for freezers and refrigerators these days.

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Don Thompson

Stolen from Dan:  "Just thinking, besides, I watched 2 dogs mating once,
and that makes me an expert. "

There is nothing more frightening than active ignorance.
~Goethe

It is a worthy thing to fight for one's freedom;
it is another sight finer to fight for another man's.
~Mark Twain



Posted by harry on March 28, 2009, 9:17 pm
 
Well, if you haven't grasped it by now, there's no hope for you!




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