Posted by Eeyore on June 30, 2007, 8:59 pm
David Williams wrote:
> -> I drive a minivan, and have had problems with small Hondas, which are much
> -> bigger than the "Smart" car, cutting from the right hand lane in front of
> -> the van where I cannot see the driver trying to move into my lane and almost
> -> hit the vehicle. I can see that "Smart" cars can end up in many blind spots
> -> and appear to not be there and end up in a serious accident, with little
> -> resistance to impact.
> The Smart has been around for long enough for some real statistics to
> have built up about its accident rate, as opposed to speculations. In
> reality, it does not seem to be especially dangerous.
> If your vehicle has blind spots in which *anything* could hide, then
> it's *your* reponsibilty to get rid of them, by installing mirrors or
> whatever. If an accident occurs because you have not done this, then
> it's *your* fault, not the other driver's, nor the designers' of the
> other vehicle.
It just goes to show how dangeorus 'minivans' are.
Graham
Posted by Eeyore on July 1, 2007, 9:17 pm
David Williams wrote:
> -> > If your vehicle has blind spots in which *anything* could hide, then
> -> > it's *your* reponsibilty to get rid of them, by installing mirrors or
> -> > whatever. If an accident occurs because you have not done this, then
> -> > it's *your* fault, not the other driver's, nor the designers' of the
> -> > other vehicle.
> -> It just goes to show how dangeorus 'minivans' are.
> My girlfriend has a minivan (a Dodge Caravan) which I drive from time
> to time. I have never felt it to be dangerous. In fact, since the
> driver sits higher than in most vehicles, and has better visibility, it
> should be unusually safe. I don't know if statistics bear this out.
Since when did the height of the drivers seat affect safety ?
Minivans (like SUVs) do not have to meet the same safety standards as normal
cars.
Graham
Posted by no spam on July 2, 2007, 8:43 am
>> -> > If your vehicle has blind spots in which *anything* could hide, then
>> -> > it's *your* reponsibilty to get rid of them, by installing mirrors
>> or
>> -> > whatever. If an accident occurs because you have not done this, then
>> -> > it's *your* fault, not the other driver's, nor the designers' of the
>> -> > other vehicle.
>>
>> -> It just goes to show how dangeorus 'minivans' are.
>>
>>
>> My girlfriend has a minivan (a Dodge Caravan) which I drive from time
>> to time. I have never felt it to be dangerous. In fact, since the
>> driver sits higher than in most vehicles, and has better visibility, it
>> should be unusually safe. I don't know if statistics bear this out.
> Since when did the height of the drivers seat affect safety ?
All the time. They higher the seat the better visibility and the easier to
see problems.
Posted by Eeyore on July 2, 2007, 7:58 pm
no spam wrote:
> >> -> > If your vehicle has blind spots in which *anything* could hide, then
> >> -> > it's *your* reponsibilty to get rid of them, by installing mirrors
> >> -> > or whatever. If an accident occurs because you have not done this,
> then
> >> -> > it's *your* fault, not the other driver's, nor the designers' of the
> >> -> > other vehicle.
> >>
> >> -> It just goes to show how dangeorus 'minivans' are.
> >>
> >>
> >> My girlfriend has a minivan (a Dodge Caravan) which I drive from time
> >> to time. I have never felt it to be dangerous. In fact, since the
> >> driver sits higher than in most vehicles, and has better visibility, it
> >> should be unusually safe. I don't know if statistics bear this out.
> >
> > Since when did the height of the drivers seat affect safety ?
> All the time. They higher the seat the better visibility and the easier to
> see problems.
None of which is going to help you if someone runs into you or you have an
accident due to misjudgement.
Graham
Posted by EXT on July 5, 2007, 1:18 pm
You can't argue with these guys, they have their mind made up, and will
discredit any thing you say against their opinions. Most, probably, don't
have real world experience in the auto business, and rely on statistics that
are slanted or specific to one test.
>-> > > Since when did the height of the drivers seat affect safety ?
> -> >
> -> > All the time. They higher the seat the better visibility and the
> easier t
> -> > see problems.
> -> None of which is going to help you if someone runs into you or you have
> an
> -> accident due to misjudgement.
> -> Graham
> Or if you get hit by a falling asteroid.
> Sure. Being high doesn't diminish *all* risks, but it does diminish
> some of them. The total risk is reduced.
> dow
> -> bigger than the "Smart" car, cutting from the right hand lane in front of
> -> the van where I cannot see the driver trying to move into my lane and almost
> -> hit the vehicle. I can see that "Smart" cars can end up in many blind spots
> -> and appear to not be there and end up in a serious accident, with little
> -> resistance to impact.
> The Smart has been around for long enough for some real statistics to
> have built up about its accident rate, as opposed to speculations. In
> reality, it does not seem to be especially dangerous.
> If your vehicle has blind spots in which *anything* could hide, then
> it's *your* reponsibilty to get rid of them, by installing mirrors or
> whatever. If an accident occurs because you have not done this, then
> it's *your* fault, not the other driver's, nor the designers' of the
> other vehicle.