Posted by Uncle Al on April 23, 2009, 10:11 pm
Bluuuue Rajah wrote:
>
> 60 Minutes is now telling us that cold fusion works.
>
> http://snipurl.com/gkcej
>
> Skip to a point about 1/3 of the way through that audio link, because
> there's a story ahead of the cold fusion story. Unfortunately, the link
> doesn't have a time index.
1) Burning a carbon atom releases 4 eV of energy.
2) Fusing two deuteriums releases at least 3.2 MeV of energy.
3) Fusion is therefore 400,000 times as energetic/atom as
combustion.
4) Strike a match. It is hot? The same mass of fused deuterium
would emit the heat from burning four metric tonnes of wood (60%
carbon, 10% moisture) near enough.
5) The putz researchers are not certain if they really have
something.
6) They have nothing.
The closer the deuterrium atoms are in the metal lattice the
exponentially faster they tunnel into a fusion reaction. The lattice
constant for palladium is 3.8908 A, for titanium it is 2.95111 A.
Pd/Ti alloys 75:25 and 33:67,
http://webbook.nist.gov/cgi/cbook.cgi?ID¸025768
http://webbook.nist.gov/cgi/cbook.cgi?ID¸025152
Shouldn't some folks pull their singular and collective thumbs out of
their asses and do a Theory of Experimentation on Pd/Ti and Pd/Ni
alloys? Those metals are heavy hydriders.
--
Uncle Al
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Posted by Eeyore on April 24, 2009, 5:01 pm
Bluuuue Rajah wrote:
> 60 Minutes is now telling us that cold fusion works.
> http://snipurl.com/gkcej
> Skip to a point about 1/3 of the way through that audio link, because
> there's a story ahead of the cold fusion story. Unfortunately, the link
> doesn't have a time index.
It does it you use Windows Media Player. Are you nuts ?
Graham
Posted by Eeyore on April 24, 2009, 5:03 pm
Bluuuue Rajah wrote:
> 60 Minutes is now telling us that cold fusion works.
> http://snipurl.com/gkcej
> Skip to a point about 1/3 of the way through that audio link, because
> there's a story ahead of the cold fusion story. Unfortunately, the link
> doesn't have a time index.
Yes it does.
It's at 15:00
Graham
Posted by Eeyore on April 25, 2009, 4:51 pm
Bill Ward wrote:
> On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 09:36:55 -0400, daestrom wrote:
> >
> > But there was no mention of any radiation given off so whatever is
> > happening, it would seem to be something that doesn't fit into our
> > current understanding.
> If there was enough anomalous heat to detect, I'd think there should be
> enough He to detect with a mass spec. That would be a lot more
> convincing than measuring tiny differences between heat in and out.
And a tiny difference between heat in and out is of no use anyway.
Graham
Posted by Bill Ward on April 25, 2009, 5:17 pm
On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 21:51:05 +0100, Eeyore wrote:
> Bill Ward wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 09:36:55 -0400, daestrom wrote:
>> >
>> > But there was no mention of any radiation given off so whatever is
>> > happening, it would seem to be something that doesn't fit into our
>> > current understanding.
>>
>> If there was enough anomalous heat to detect, I'd think there should be
>> enough He to detect with a mass spec. That would be a lot more
>> convincing than measuring tiny differences between heat in and out.
>
> And a tiny difference between heat in and out is of no use anyway.
From an engineering viewpoint, that's true enough. But if unmistakably
anomalous energy could be shown, it might lead to new scientific
understanding. Think of Rutherford and the backscattered alphas:
http://www-outreach.phy.cam.ac.uk/camphy/nucleus/nucleus5_1.htm
That eventually led to some very practical applications.
BTW, I'm also quite skeptical about cold fusion, but attempt to keep an
open mind.
> 60 Minutes is now telling us that cold fusion works.
>
> http://snipurl.com/gkcej
>
> Skip to a point about 1/3 of the way through that audio link, because
> there's a story ahead of the cold fusion story. Unfortunately, the link
> doesn't have a time index.