Posted by Speeders & Drunk Drivers are M on October 3, 2009, 10:21 am
> Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:
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>> People don't give a shit about what's going inside the intermediate formula of John Fools, get to <RANT . . . .> Red Cross.
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> I *DO* give a shit:-
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Good for you Lamb, then eat a pile of shit then, don't eat grass PLONK!
Posted by John Fields on October 4, 2009, 6:08 am
>> An ampere-turn isn't the same thing as an amp. Numbers aren't your
>> strong point, are they?
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>> John
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>Stupid, eat shit.
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Gotcha good on that one, didn't he? :-)
Seems like you just don't know when to quit, do you?
Either that or you actually crave attention so badly you'll repeatedly
take a whipping just to let folks know you're around, you pitiful
wretch.
Posted by Jan Panteltje on October 8, 2009, 12:40 pm
On a sunny day (Thu, 8 Oct 2009 16:04:23 +0200) it happened "TheM"
>Seems it will be fired up again mid-November.
>And full power for Christmas, what a perfect time for armageddon.
>http://www.swisster.ch/en/news/science_tech/cern-experts-begin-testing-lhc-repairs_118-2445479
>"This fault was caused by nothing more technical than a bad soldier joint!"
Gillies told Swisster, an oversight that lead to a
>repair bill of some 40 million Swiss francs. The estimated cost of the entire
project is thought to be in the region of 10
>billion
>francs.
>Possibly ROHS problem ;)
There is more to it.
I have read in a paper that says that it will *not* run at design power any time
in the near future, if ever.
It stated that the scientists will have to settle for a bit less energy in their
experiments.
That would mean the quest for finding the Higgs may well leave some ehh
openings...
Not that I think the Higgs even exists.
CERN is just a social project for scientists, and creates jobs for all sorts of
techies.
Sort of a black hole for money :-)
Talking about black holes... well, Bell accidently got the telephone working,
maybe some other bad joint (soldering or other wise there) will ... well
imagine, no more Usenet...?
No more republican party, no more national debt, no more ice cream, no more
taxes.
hehe
Posted by Archimedes' Lever on October 10, 2009, 5:57 pm
On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 16:40:13 GMT, Jan Panteltje
> Bell accidently got the telephone working,
Bell did not invent the telephone. Meucci did.
Posted by Archimedes' Lever on October 10, 2009, 5:30 pm
On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 16:29:01 +0200, Jeroen Belleman
>Jan Panteltje wrote:
>> On a sunny day (Thu, 08 Oct 2009 08:46:48 +0200) it happened Jeroen Belleman
>>
>>> harry wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately the relationship between ampere turns and the magnetic
>>>> flux generated is not linear. Ie doubling ampere turns does not
>>>> double the flux. Also, at some point, the magnetic material
>>>> "saturates" and you can add as many ampere turns as you like but flux
>>>> will not increase.
>>> You may try to sell that argument to our magnet builders here
>>> at CERN. ;-) How do you think they get to 10 Teslas?
>>
>> They dont, it blew up.
>Sigh! Indeed it did. And we're still recovering from the blow.
>What happened was that a connection *between* two magnets failed,
>at just under 9kA. Much of the energy stored in the magnets, and
>it's a _lot_, got dumped into that spot, with the results you all
>heard about.
Somebody was trying to shrink a coin... :-]
I wonder what a shrunken Gold bar would look like.
> But the good news is that LHC will soon start up
>again. Anyway, in this discussion, that's a side issue.
>My point was that even if ferromagnetic material in a coil
>saturates, pushing more current will still increase the field,
>albeit not by as much as before saturation set in.
Flux is flux. :-] If you are pumping electrons through a conductor
and into a load, the flux man is happy to give.
"All your flux are" (small joke) need to be focused at the end of the
exposed, downward facing pole to be "an electromagnet, right?
The idea is picking things up against the pull of gravity...
Might even want to loop the top side of that pole around to the edge to
point downward as well. A pole-in-a-cup thing.
Seems like short and squat coil and pole would yield better holding
capability than a long pole and coil would.
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>> People don't give a shit about what's going inside the intermediate formula of John Fools, get to <RANT . . . .> Red Cross.
>>
> I *DO* give a shit:-
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