Posted by cbx on May 23, 2007, 11:59 am
You forgot the biggest tax of all, inflation. Right now, since
Government stopped priting the M3, they have been inflating with a
vengence, and most credible estimates are 12% or higher. Yet, they
peg the "CORE" inflation at 2 - 3 %, a net 10% profit for them, as
their Cost of Living increases are pegged to CORE (EXCEPT fot the
employees of the government who suck the governments tit and can't
find productive work in the marketplace).
Inflation is the worst tax, as the average Boobus-Americanus has no
ide at all what it is, or who causes it.
Almost all countries are inflating madly now, they must to save their
asses. SO, unless you are getting a good 20%+ return on your money
you are losing your ass to the terrorists in Washington DC.... You can
always put the wife and all the children to work to compete with the
illegal aliens for that $4/hour job.... he he.....
>Nomen Nescio wrote:
>>
>> X-No-Archive: yes
>> >As of yesterday, gas prices are the highest in U.S. history-we just
>> >passed the 1981 record, even adjusted for inflation.1 Prices could
>> >reach $4.00 per gallon, just in time to crimp summer vacation plans.
>I think that gasoline prices are not high enough until everyone in
>New York City is driving around on bicycles.
>However don't blame everything on the oil companies...that is a
>ruse by the government...
>If you check the quarterly and annual reports on a company such as
>exxon, available on their web page, you will find they put aprox.
>10 cents in their pocket for every dollar worth of stuff they sell.
>The reports are certified correct by accountant companies..if they
>are not they can be sued, and/or lose their ability to certify...
>these companies would lose all there customers if they lost
>there ability to certify.
>They collect aprox. 25 cents from you, the consumer, for every
>dollars worth of stuff they sell, this 25 cents is collected
>for the government. Its the reason politicians want to put more tax on
>oil products...so they get more money. So the actual cost to the
>oil companies to produce their products is 65 cents for every dollar
>sold. Any tax they put on oil products will go directly on to
>the price....raising the price on all oil products and putting
>more money in the governments pockets, ripping us off even more,
>they get away with this because the politicians blame the oil
>companies, not themselves.
>The ten cents that the oil companies stick in their pockets
>is less then the average amount that companies listed on the
>S&P 500 do....an example is microsoft which sticks around 30
>cents in its pocket for every dollars worth of stuff they
>sell..the reason that oil companies make so much total money
>is they sell a lot of product, since they are some of the
>largest companies in the world and they sell so much stuff,
>of course they make a lot of total money.
>P.S some of the ten cents they put in their pocket goes toward things
>like building new refineries....finding more oil (most oil is owned
>by nations, example saudi arabia, mexico, etc., and they set the oil
>price) finding more oil and building things like refineries tend to
>lower the price.
>thank you for listening to my thoughts....have fun....sno
Posted by no spam on May 29, 2007, 9:55 am
>-> The most perfect way to ration is through a natural free market
> -> pricing mechanism.
> That looks like a statement of religious faith - a piece of dogma
> without the slightest trace of rational justification.
> During WW2, the British (and, I'm sure, other nationalities) rationed
> food, clothes, heating fuel, gasoline, and pretty well everything else.
> Everyone received a book of coupons every few weeks, and was allowed to
> buy only what they had coupons for. It wasn't exactly pleasant.
> Rationing never is. But it worked. Everyone received the necessities of
> life, and people who had special needs were accommodated. For much of
> the war, most civilians got no gasoline at all. They had to use public
> transportation. Only people such as doctors received any gas, and they
> were supposed to use it only in connection with their work.
> Jacking up prices would not have achieved anything.
And there was a thriving black market where those with money could have
almost anything they wanted.
> dow
Posted by no spam on May 30, 2007, 2:02 pm
>-> And how much of that $8 is taxes used by the government to control you?
>How
> -> many people would much rather be riding in the nice big cars that the
> -> government overlords are riding in rather than matchboxes?
> What does that have to do with anything?
Personal freedom vs government control of your life.
What's next the government telling how much beef you can eat or who can
reproduce?
Posted by no spam on May 30, 2007, 2:02 pm
>-> Don't know much about business do ya? If you have a consumable product
>that
> -> you can sell as much as you make all the time you can make a LOT more
> money
> -> by selling more of the product with less profit per item than you can
> by
> -> selling fewer at more profit per item.
> Then why do clever businessmen not reduce their profits to a billionth
> of a cent per item (whatever the item is)? By your reasoning, this
> would give them huge revenues.
Ever wonder why Wal Mart can sell a 50 pound bag of Purina dog food for $15
while your local market sells it for $20? Many reasons but one is the fact
that Wally World probably sells millions of bags per year therefore can make
enough overall profit by making say $2/bag. But your local market might
sell 100 bags so to make it a profitable item they have to have $5-$7/bag
profit before it makes sense to put it on the shelf.
Ever wonder why business have sales where they cut prices on items? Again
several reasons but one is the fact that an item sitting on a shelf cost
money. Think real estate, you set the price and wait. While you are
waiting you are losing money because you still have to pay for the property
(taxes, insurance, mortgage, etc). So you can either keep your price and
hope that someone will buy at that price or you can drop your price.
A business has to look at the cost of keeping a product on the shelf vs the
profit it will make when it sells.
Posted by no spam on May 30, 2007, 2:02 pm
>-> And there was a thriving black market where those with money could have
> -> almost anything they wanted.
> That's a fantasy. Almost everything that was available went into the
> government's rationing system. Sure, there were little fiddles going on
> here and there, but they amounted to only a tiny fraction of the total.
Talk to some one who worked in law enforcement during that time and see what
they tell you about the black market during WWII. If you had money you
could buy just about anything and as much of it as you wanted.
>>
>> X-No-Archive: yes
>> >As of yesterday, gas prices are the highest in U.S. history-we just
>> >passed the 1981 record, even adjusted for inflation.1 Prices could
>> >reach $4.00 per gallon, just in time to crimp summer vacation plans.
>I think that gasoline prices are not high enough until everyone in
>New York City is driving around on bicycles.
>However don't blame everything on the oil companies...that is a
>ruse by the government...
>If you check the quarterly and annual reports on a company such as
>exxon, available on their web page, you will find they put aprox.
>10 cents in their pocket for every dollar worth of stuff they sell.
>The reports are certified correct by accountant companies..if they
>are not they can be sued, and/or lose their ability to certify...
>these companies would lose all there customers if they lost
>there ability to certify.
>They collect aprox. 25 cents from you, the consumer, for every
>dollars worth of stuff they sell, this 25 cents is collected
>for the government. Its the reason politicians want to put more tax on
>oil products...so they get more money. So the actual cost to the
>oil companies to produce their products is 65 cents for every dollar
>sold. Any tax they put on oil products will go directly on to
>the price....raising the price on all oil products and putting
>more money in the governments pockets, ripping us off even more,
>they get away with this because the politicians blame the oil
>companies, not themselves.
>The ten cents that the oil companies stick in their pockets
>is less then the average amount that companies listed on the
>S&P 500 do....an example is microsoft which sticks around 30
>cents in its pocket for every dollars worth of stuff they
>sell..the reason that oil companies make so much total money
>is they sell a lot of product, since they are some of the
>largest companies in the world and they sell so much stuff,
>of course they make a lot of total money.
>P.S some of the ten cents they put in their pocket goes toward things
>like building new refineries....finding more oil (most oil is owned
>by nations, example saudi arabia, mexico, etc., and they set the oil
>price) finding more oil and building things like refineries tend to
>lower the price.
>thank you for listening to my thoughts....have fun....sno