Posted by Eeyore on August 14, 2008, 2:02 pm
amdx wrote:
> > 5. Leave off the crucial computer controlled switchmode voltage to current
> > converter so that most of the electrical energy gets burned up in the
> > alternator source rather than being sent to its electrolysis load.
> Please explain this one for me? Is this just a voltage down converter, a
> specific
> waveform generator or a impedance matching circuit?
> I'm a non believer but I seem to run into people building these hydrogen
> generators and they are zealots.
You mean idiots of course.
Graham
Posted by amdx on August 14, 2008, 9:40 pm
> amdx wrote:
>> > 5. Leave off the crucial computer controlled switchmode voltage to
>> > current
>> > converter so that most of the electrical energy gets burned up in the
>> > alternator source rather than being sent to its electrolysis load.
>>
>> Please explain this one for me? Is this just a voltage down converter, a
>> specific
>> waveform generator or a impedance matching circuit?
>> I'm a non believer but I seem to run into people building these hydrogen
>> generators and they are zealots.
> You mean idiots of course.
> Graham
Idiotic zealots? Oh they tell me how the gas gauge usually goes to down to
a quarter but this trip with the hydrolyzer it only went down to a half.
They believe. Never a mileage comparison. I suggested I would like to see a
university study, they say " the university won't find an improvement,
there bought by big oil". They believe!
Mike
Posted by Eeyore on August 15, 2008, 12:56 am
amdx wrote:
> "Eeyore" wrote
> > amdx wrote:
> >
> >> > 5. Leave off the crucial computer controlled switchmode voltage to
> >> > current
> >> > converter so that most of the electrical energy gets burned up in the
> >> > alternator source rather than being sent to its electrolysis load.
> >>
> >> Please explain this one for me? Is this just a voltage down converter, a
> >> specific
> >> waveform generator or a impedance matching circuit?
> >> I'm a non believer but I seem to run into people building these hydrogen
> >> generators and they are zealots.
> >
> > You mean idiots of course.
> Idiotic zealots?
Perfect description.
> Oh they tell me how the gas gauge usually goes to down to
> a quarter but this trip with the hydrolyzer it only went down to a half.
> They believe. Never a mileage comparison. I suggested I would like to see a
> university study, they say " the university won't find an improvement,
> there bought by big oil". They believe!
> Mike
Truly bizarre. One radio station I believe has recently taken to actually
moderately scientifically testing one of these devices and has so far seen IIRC
mpg drop from ~17mpg to ~ 16mpg. I'm surprised it's that good actually.
Graham
Posted by NotMe on August 16, 2008, 9:23 am
| > >
| > >> > 5. Leave off the crucial computer controlled switchmode voltage to
| > >> > current
| > >> > converter so that most of the electrical energy gets burned up in
the
| > >> > alternator source rather than being sent to its electrolysis load.
| > >>
| > >> Please explain this one for me? Is this just a voltage down
converter, a
| > >> specific
| > >> waveform generator or a impedance matching circuit?
| > >> I'm a non believer but I seem to run into people building these
hydrogen
| > >> generators and they are zealots.
| > >
| > > You mean idiots of course.
| >
| > Idiotic zealots?
|
| Perfect description.
|
|
| > Oh they tell me how the gas gauge usually goes to down to
| > a quarter but this trip with the hydrolyzer it only went down to a half.
| > They believe. Never a mileage comparison. I suggested I would like to
see a
| > university study, they say " the university won't find an improvement,
| > there bought by big oil". They believe!
| > Mike
|
| Truly bizarre. One radio station I believe has recently taken to actually
| moderately scientifically testing one of these devices and has so far seen
IIRC
| mpg drop from ~17mpg to ~ 16mpg. I'm surprised it's that good actually.
|
| Graham
TV station in Dallas TX paid several real world experts to install and test
the hardware and the process.
Pure (reagent) grade water, at best, did no harm but made no improvements.
More detailed testing showed the vehicle performance went down over time.
Anything other than pure water produced 'components' that would damage the
vehicle system were evident. (Hint: check the cost of a replacement cat
converter).
A month of so back I was sharing a few beers and swaping lies with some of
my son's NASCAR mechanics buddies in NC. (he maintains some of the crew RV
busses) The topic came up and was roundly 'discussed' in the end the general
consensus (between p*ss breaks and crude jokes) was 'mouse milk*'.
* http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2007/12/29/mouse-milk-10000-a-quart/
Chemical engineers I (an EE) went to school with (early '60's) just shake
their heads.
Posted by Jim Wilkins on August 16, 2008, 12:28 pm
....
> A month of so back I was sharing a few beers and swaping lies with some of
> my son's NASCAR mechanics buddies in NC. (he maintains some of the crew RV
> busses) The topic came up and was roundly 'discussed' in the end the general
> consensus (between p*ss breaks and crude jokes) was 'mouse milk*'.
> *http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2007/12/29/mouse-milk-10000-a-quart/
> Chemical engineers I (an EE) went to school with (early '60's) just shake
> their heads.
We have learned not to mud-wrestle with a pig.
Jim Wilkins
BS Chem 69
> > converter so that most of the electrical energy gets burned up in the
> > alternator source rather than being sent to its electrolysis load.
> Please explain this one for me? Is this just a voltage down converter, a
> specific
> waveform generator or a impedance matching circuit?
> I'm a non believer but I seem to run into people building these hydrogen
> generators and they are zealots.