Posted by Malcolm \"Mal\" Reynolds on August 25, 2008, 12:12 am
> On Aug 24, 6:18 pm, "Malcolm \"Mal\" Reynolds"
>> innews:48B1EFB6.B59
> 430AD@hotmail.com:
>>
>>
>>
>> > Malcolm \"Mal\" Reynolds wrote:
>>
>> >> I realize that. I should have made that clear...I'm speaking of
>> >> non-computer engines.
>>
>> > And how many of those are there ? Or likely to still exist in say 10
>> > years aside from in museums.
>>
>> > Graham
>>
>> I don't know (other than the fact that I have one), but it seems if you
>> can make hydrogen boost work reliably on a non-computer engine, then
>> someone somewhere will develop a chip for the computers that deals with
>> hydrogen in such a way that it isn't a problem.
>
> And it it is ever done, it will not be by a backyard mechanic.
>
> Harry K
>
Why would that be? It's essentially a computer problem and there are
plenty of programmers.
And if it's a mechanical problem there are plenty of backyard mechanics
that have figured out the complexities involved with nitrous oxide.
Posted by harry k on August 25, 2008, 10:00 am
On Aug 24, 9:12 pm, "Malcolm \"Mal\" Reynolds"
> > On Aug 24, 6:18 pm, "Malcolm \"Mal\" Reynolds"
> >> innews:48B1EFB6.B59
> > 43...@hotmail.com:
> >> > Malcolm \"Mal\" Reynolds wrote:
> >> >> I realize that. I should have made that clear...I'm speaking of
> >> >> non-computer engines.
> >> > And how many of those are there ? Or likely to still exist in say 10
> >> > years aside from in museums.
> >> > Graham
> >> I don't know (other than the fact that I have one), but it seems if you
> >> can make hydrogen boost work reliably on a non-computer engine, then
> >> someone somewhere will develop a chip for the computers that deals with
> >> hydrogen in such a way that it isn't a problem.
> > And it it is ever done, it will not be by a backyard mechanic.
> > Harry K
> Why would that be? It's essentially a computer problem and there are
> plenty of programmers.
> And if it's a mechanical problem there are plenty of backyard mechanics
> that have figured out the complexities involved with nitrous oxide.- Hide quoted text -
> - Show quoted text -
Because it is going to require a major breakthough to make an end-
around in the laws of phyics. It will not be a 'bolt on' item.
We are not talking about adding something to get more power. That is
a simple mechanical engineering and can be, and has been done, in the
backyard. If you want it for more power - yep almost anyone can do
that but to make it street legal?
I will predict that if/when it is done hydrogen boost will not be by
some cockamamie on-board system if the goal is economy.
Harry K
Posted by Eeyore on August 25, 2008, 12:37 pm
harry k wrote:
> "Malcolm \"Mal\" Reynolds" wrote:
> > Eeyore wrote
> > > Malcolm \"Mal\" Reynolds wrote:
> >
> > >> I realize that. I should have made that clear...I'm speaking of
> > >> non-computer engines.
> >
> > > And how many of those are there ? Or likely to still exist in say 10
> > > years aside from in museums.
> >
> > I don't know (other than the fact that I have one), but it seems if you can
> > make hydrogen boost work reliably on a non-computer engine, then someone
> > somewhere will develop a chip for the computers that deals with hydrogen in
> > such a way that it isn't a problem.
> And it it is ever done, it will not be by a backyard mechanic.
Or a junkyard mechanic.
Graham
Posted by Vaughn Simon on August 25, 2008, 8:25 am
> I don't know (other than the fact that I have one), but it seems if you can
> make hydrogen boost work reliably on a non-computer engine,
I am not at all sure if that is true. It is certainly not true if engine
power is being used to produce the hydrogen.
Any differences between computer and non-computer engines will be mostly due
to the greater inefficiency of the non-computer engine.
--
Vaughn
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Posted by Eeyore on August 25, 2008, 12:54 pm
Vaughn Simon wrote:
> "Malcolm "Mal" Reynolds" wrote
> > I don't know (other than the fact that I have one), but it seems if you can
> > make hydrogen boost work reliably on a non-computer engine,
Do you mean 'hydrogen boost' as in improving combustion somehow (show the
physics)
or fairy tales.
> I am not at all sure if that is true. It is certainly not true if engine
> power is being used to produce the hydrogen.
> Any differences between computer and non-computer engines will be mostly due
> to the greater inefficiency of the non-computer engine.
Anyone recall the mythical 100 mpg carburettors ? There are plenty of fools born
every day.
Moden engine ECUs can do awesome things to reduce fuel consumption especially if
you
have a 32 bit one like Saab use (virtually the same CPU as some older Apple
Macs).
Graham
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>> innews:48B1EFB6.B59
> 430AD@hotmail.com:
>>
>>
>>
>> > Malcolm \"Mal\" Reynolds wrote:
>>
>> >> I realize that. I should have made that clear...I'm speaking of
>> >> non-computer engines.
>>
>> > And how many of those are there ? Or likely to still exist in say 10
>> > years aside from in museums.
>>
>> > Graham
>>
>> I don't know (other than the fact that I have one), but it seems if you
>> can make hydrogen boost work reliably on a non-computer engine, then
>> someone somewhere will develop a chip for the computers that deals with
>> hydrogen in such a way that it isn't a problem.
>
> And it it is ever done, it will not be by a backyard mechanic.
>
> Harry K
>