Posted by Arnold Walker on August 17, 2005, 5:19 pm
> arnoldwalker@consolidated.net says...
> >
> > > arnoldwalker@consolidated.net says...
> > > >
says...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > And how many other products can be made from the canola
plants?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You can make thousands of things, just as many as with hemp, but
> > there
> > > > > > aren't as many people working overtime to prove it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What's the big deal about hemp over any other plant? You can't
get
> > > > buzzed
> > > > > > from smoking it, so why do you want farmers to grow it so bad?
> > > > >
> > > > > Because it's much less energy- and pesticide-intensive than
growing
> > > > > cotton.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hemp fiber comes from the stalks, not the seed boll, so the fibers
are
> > > > > longer, stronger, and more pest resistant than cotton.
> > > > >
> > > > > --Gene
> > > > You coulld make the same claim for trees.....
> > > > And hemp does have pest.
> > >
> > > You can't sow and harvest (most) trees in one growing season.
> > >
> > > --Gene
> > Gee,a tree farmer would never have thought of that....given the
guidelines
> > and regulation
> > from the Forest service,in virtual every state.Looking at every aspect
of
> > your tree stand.
> > Your latest planting operation.
> > Just as surely as you would have never thought of the local business day
> > average from
> > area tree farmers to the paper mill is 1000tons.10acres roughly out of a
3
> > million acre forest.
> > Some folks build homes out wood,too. A good mill will about the same
> > numbers.....at with at
> > big four guys (INternational Paper,Champion,Owen,Illinios,and Temple
> > Inland(Northerns will
> > differ on that fourth guy.Guess it depends on whether you are using pine
or
> > fir.)
> Huh?
> Given an acre of plowed earth, seeds, and one year to grow, how many
> feet of lumber will you get?
> After 5-7 years, you could get a steady yield of pine.
> You COULD get quite a bit of bamboo in one season, although I think
> technically it's a grass, not a tree.
> --Gene
Yes,bamboo is a grass...it also comes near many woods on heat content from
chips.
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Posted by El Kabong on August 17, 2005, 5:53 pm
>> You COULD get quite a bit of bamboo in one season, although I think
>> technically it's a grass, not a tree.
>>
>> --Gene
> Yes,bamboo is a grass...it also comes near many woods on heat content from
> chips.
It also makes great flooring, can be processed into incredibly strong
framing and general construction material (beams, trusses, etc.) and
generally beats wood at almost everything... but you can't get maple syrup
from it and nothing I've ever seen is prettier than a mixed hardwood forest
in Autumn.
Bring on the Bamboo, but let's keep the trees, too.
El
Posted by Hatunen on August 17, 2005, 7:13 pm
On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 21:53:10 GMT, "El Kabong"
>>> You COULD get quite a bit of bamboo in one season, although I think
>>> technically it's a grass, not a tree.
>>>
>>> --Gene
>> Yes,bamboo is a grass...it also comes near many woods on heat content from
>> chips.
>It also makes great flooring, can be processed into incredibly strong
>framing and general construction material (beams, trusses, etc.) and
>generally beats wood at almost everything... but you can't get maple syrup
>from it and nothing I've ever seen is prettier than a mixed hardwood forest
>in Autumn.
>Bring on the Bamboo, but let's keep the trees, too.
Bamboo also has the annoing habit that for some types all the
bamboo in the world dies off at the same time.
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Posted by Jim Baber on August 17, 2005, 7:12 pm
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Hatunen wrote:
>On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 21:53:10 GMT, "El Kabong"
>>>>You COULD get quite a bit of bamboo in one season, although I think
>>>>technically it's a grass, not a tree.
>>>>
>>>>--Gene
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Yes,bamboo is a grass...it also comes near many woods on heat content from
>>>chips.
>>>
>>>
>>It also makes great flooring, can be processed into incredibly strong
>>framing and general construction material (beams, trusses, etc.) and
>>generally beats wood at almost everything... but you can't get maple syrup
>>
>>
>>from it and nothing I've ever seen is prettier than a mixed hardwood forest
>
>>in Autumn.
>>
>>Bring on the Bamboo, but let's keep the trees, too.
>>
>>
>Bamboo also has the annoing habit that for some types all the
>bamboo in the world dies off at the same time.
>
Jim Baber has a comment on Bamboo:
I really like the look of it, and it does very well in Fresno's
climate. Too $%^&* well, it becomes a very aggressive weed here. It
puts out runners at or below the surface, which may travel 3 to 6 feet
before surfacing with a shoot that can grow as much as 6 - 9 inches in a
week. This shoot is very tough but pliable and my lawn mower just
pushes them over, and they straighten back up within a day. You have to
dig them out and pull that runner up, or it will just send another shoot
up.
I finally gave up on controlling it and decided to take it all out. Two
years later I and my next door neighbor were still digging up fresh
outbreaks and following up with heavy applications of round up. I sold
the house and moved. My neighbor told me several years later he was
still fighting the bamboo battle.
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Posted by sno on August 17, 2005, 8:04 pm
Jim Baber wrote:
>
> Hatunen wrote:
>
> >On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 21:53:10 GMT, "El Kabong"
> >
> >>>>You COULD get quite a bit of bamboo in one season, although I think
> >>>>technically it's a grass, not a tree.
> >>>>
> >>>>--Gene
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>Yes,bamboo is a grass...it also comes near many woods on heat content from
> >>>chips.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>It also makes great flooring, can be processed into incredibly strong
> >>framing and general construction material (beams, trusses, etc.) and
> >>generally beats wood at almost everything... but you can't get maple syrup
> >>
> >>
> >>from it and nothing I've ever seen is prettier than a mixed hardwood forest
> >
> >
> >>in Autumn.
> >>
> >>Bring on the Bamboo, but let's keep the trees, too.
> >>
> >>
> >Bamboo also has the annoing habit that for some types all the
> >bamboo in the world dies off at the same time.
> >
> >
> Jim Baber has a comment on Bamboo:
> I really like the look of it, and it does very well in Fresno's
> climate. Too $%^&* well, it becomes a very aggressive weed here. It
> puts out runners at or below the surface, which may travel 3 to 6 feet
> before surfacing with a shoot that can grow as much as 6 - 9 inches in a
> week. This shoot is very tough but pliable and my lawn mower just
> pushes them over, and they straighten back up within a day. You have to
> dig them out and pull that runner up, or it will just send another shoot
> up.
>
> I finally gave up on controlling it and decided to take it all out. Two
> years later I and my next door neighbor were still digging up fresh
> outbreaks and following up with heavy applications of round up. I sold
> the house and moved. My neighbor told me several years later he was
> still fighting the bamboo battle.
To eradicate it you need to cut all the culms down as low as possible...
Then mower it regularly to prevent any green leaves from developing...
It stores all its sugars and starches in the rizomes...(roots)....you
need to prevent the rizomes from storing any more....they can grow to a
depth
of 18 inches...so trying to dig them out is almost impossible...
Within two hours of cutting the sap/sugars are drained into the
rizome...
and the cut is sealed...trying to use somethink like roundup will not
work...does
not get to the rizomes....
It takes about three years for the sugars and starches to be used up...
You need to break off the shoots before they get as big as six or nine
inches...
You can sell the shoots to a oriental resterant present price is about
2.50
a lb....(grin)....
Let your neighbor know....
hope helps .....have fun......sno (bamboo nut)
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