Posted by you on September 20, 2010, 5:04 pm
>
>
> My solution is to go guerilla solar. Pump juice back into the grid,
> at least you get the full KWH rate or 10 cents per kwh rather than
> the 2 cents you MAY get if you go the route of the power company, and
> install separate meters, elaborate "safety" (expensive) equipment,
> code updates, and then you may not get approved. Essentially you are
> generating your own power without a generator, it's called a
> grid tie inverter. As money becomes available, add solar panels, you
> can get 80 percent paid for it in tax rebates from Fed, State, tree
> huggers. Go to You Tube and search "grid tie inverter", you will be
> amazed at how easy it is. But, mums the word, don't do any bragging
> to your neighbor.
and if you get caught the Utility company will sue the pants off you,
and you will be Homeless and broke.....
Posted by you on September 20, 2010, 5:08 pm
> and tell
> the utility to suck your bodily parts....
and the Utility sends out a Lineman, and cuts off your service because
you are NOT in compliance with their Tariffs.....
some day you will learn....
Posted by Bruce Gordon on September 20, 2010, 5:16 pm
> vaughn wrote:
> >> That being the case, there must be a crossover point where
> >> fueling a home generator with nat gas becomes as cheap as getting
> >> electricity from the grid.
> >>
> > I suppose so, but you can't just look a fuel costs vs. your power
> > bill. It costs real money to maintain a generator. Every X number
> > of hours, you need either a new generator, or a complete rebuild. Compared
> > to
> > any subsidy-free method of generating our own power,
> > buying power from the grid is probably the biggest bargain of our
> > lives.
> > That said, any "break even" point would come far faster if you lived
> > in a cold climate and used the generator's waste heat for home
> > heating and DHW.
>
> Anyone have any idea how much longer you can go between rebuilds on natural
> gas
> compared to gasoline or diesel. I have heard it burns cleaner, so less wear.
Well, it really depends on the engine make, AND model, as well as a
number of other design criteria. Some diesels can go 50K to 60K
Operational Hours between InFrame rebuilds. Some of the Home Depot
Gensets will only get 200-500 Operational Hours between New and SCRAP.
NG is cleaner than Gasoline, but that is only none MINOR factor in PTBI,
(Mean Time between InFrames) and that does NOT include Top Ends that
usually need to be done at 50% InFrame times.
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Posted by vaughn on September 20, 2010, 5:21 pm
> and if you get caught the Utility company will sue the pants off you,
> and you will be Homeless and broke.....
Another planet heard from...
Vaughn
Posted by Jim on September 23, 2010, 7:59 pm
>>
>>
>> My solution is to go guerilla solar. Pump juice back into the grid,
>> at least you get the full KWH rate or 10 cents per kwh rather than
>> the 2 cents you MAY get if you go the route of the power company, and
>> install separate meters, elaborate "safety" (expensive) equipment,
>> code updates, and then you may not get approved. Essentially you are
>> generating your own power without a generator, it's called a
>> grid tie inverter. As money becomes available, add solar panels, you
>> can get 80 percent paid for it in tax rebates from Fed, State, tree
>> huggers. Go to You Tube and search "grid tie inverter", you will be
>> amazed at how easy it is. But, mums the word, don't do any bragging
>> to your neighbor.
>and if you get caught the Utility company will sue the pants off you,
>and you will be Homeless and broke.....
You only THINK you live in a free country....
>
> My solution is to go guerilla solar. Pump juice back into the grid,
> at least you get the full KWH rate or 10 cents per kwh rather than
> the 2 cents you MAY get if you go the route of the power company, and
> install separate meters, elaborate "safety" (expensive) equipment,
> code updates, and then you may not get approved. Essentially you are
> generating your own power without a generator, it's called a
> grid tie inverter. As money becomes available, add solar panels, you
> can get 80 percent paid for it in tax rebates from Fed, State, tree
> huggers. Go to You Tube and search "grid tie inverter", you will be
> amazed at how easy it is. But, mums the word, don't do any bragging
> to your neighbor.