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Posted by Solar Flare on September 25, 2006, 6:52 pm
9 panels is an odd number of panels. Are you running HV with them all
in series?
> Let me start this by stating that I am a hotheaded, self
> rightious,
> narrow minded, arrogant SOB. I also believe that I may be any
> company's
> worst nightmare to do business with. Anything you promise, you
> damned well
> better deliver, to the letter. My main launch button: "I'll get
> right back
> to you..." Yup, that sets the missiles flying, every time. More on
> that
> later.
> Well, It's been eight years in the planning and three years in
> the
> building, but the lights are on at the new house out in the desert.
> We installed the batteries, made the final connections and and
> flipped
> all the switches on 9/15. The charge controller woke up, the
> inverter
> started humming and it all worked right, right from the start. I
> plugged in
> the shop vac and DAMN! This stuff all works! My water pump works,
> the heat
> circulators work, the bathroom fan works, all the lights come on.
> The whole
> house came to life. I felt like (young) Dr Frankenstein.... IT'S
> ALIVE!!!!!!!!
> I need to thank the folks at Solatron Technologies for
> putting
> together a fantastic package. It all works just the way they said.
> All the
> hardware was top shelf, and once the fax machine spit out a wiring
> diagram,
> it went together like a tinkertoy. With the exception of some
> standard lugs
> and other minor hardware for making connections, a few feet of #4
> THHN, some
> conduit, and a few more feet of ground wire, everything I needed was
> in the
> package.
> I ordered the stuff over the phone and it was all on it's way the
> very
> next day. It was all packaged to withstand a tornado. The PV panels
> came on
> a welded steel pallet (I'm told steel is cheaper than wood in Japan)
> via USF
> Reddaway, and they put the unit right in my truck for me. The UPS
> driver
> had plenty of fun with the 135 pound inverter after he found the
> place
> (BFE).
> The system:
> (9) 165 watt Mitsubishi PV panels (they are beautiful things)
> Xantrex 2440 SW inverter (heavy, very heavy)
> Xantrex combiner box and Disconnect panels (furniture grade metal
> cabinets)
> Outback MPPT 60 charge controller (built like a brick........)
> UniRack mounting system (very heavy duty anodized aluminum w/ SS
> hardware,
> easy to assemble)
> Xantrex TM 500 digital system monitor (Hours of entertainment value,
> just
> set for "Amps" and watch the #s change)
> And a bunch of wire, some fuses, connectors, etc. All very nice
> stuff, and
> at a price that was considerably less than buying it piecemeal. The
> best
> part was my not needing to figure out what I needed to buy to go
> with the
> other stuff I needed to buy.
> They aren't listing this kit currently, My guess is they are out
> of the
> 165 panels.
> I bought my batteries and jumpers locally (Intermountain Battery,
> Salt
> Lake City) (8) Deka ProMaster 8L16. Good thing I got in myself into
> shape
> mounting that inverter to the wall. Them batteries are heavy.
> Trojan L16H
> batteries would have cost nearly double for some reason. Maybe I'll
> find out
> why in about 5 years.
> Back to my complaint.... The kit didn't come with a basic wiring
> diagram, how the panels connect to each other (surprise! 3 in
> series), to
> other stuff, where, and with what... I E-mailed, waited half a day
> and
> called, "someone will get back to you after lunch". I hung around
> the office
> I hate until the place closed. The next morning I wrote a very angry
> and
> detailed message. Problem resolved within 10 minutes of them getting
> it.
> Their customer service was actually the best I've had from anybody
> in years.
> Don't get me started about home centers...
> I am sure that folks mean well when they say they will get back
> to you.
> Better to take care of me while you are still on the line, however
> long it
> takes. That is my only complaint. Not much by most folks standards,
> but I
> would rather get screwed on weight and measure than be left waiting
> for a
> call.
> I would buy from them again in a minute, no question. If anyone
> wants
> details, pictures or the like, let me know.
> Thanks Guys, You know who I am, you know where you shipped it.
> Sorry
> about the blow up. I would be glad to see you. Call before you drive
> up
> I-15.
>
Posted by no one that you know on September 25, 2006, 8:55 pm
TRecupero wrote:
>
> Let me start this by stating that I am a hotheaded, self rightious,
> narrow minded, arrogant SOB. I also believe that I may be any company's
> worst nightmare to do business with. Anything you promise, you damned well
> better deliver, to the letter. My main launch button: "I'll get right back
> to you..." Yup, that sets the missiles flying, every time. More on that
> later.
> Well, It's been eight years in the planning and three years in the
> building, but the lights are on at the new house out in the desert.
> We installed the batteries, made the final connections and and flipped
> all the switches on 9/15. The charge controller woke up, the inverter
> started humming and it all worked right, right from the start. I plugged in
> the shop vac and DAMN! This stuff all works! My water pump works, the heat
> circulators work, the bathroom fan works, all the lights come on. The whole
> house came to life. I felt like (young) Dr Frankenstein.... IT'S
> ALIVE!!!!!!!!
> I need to thank the folks at Solatron Technologies for putting
> together a fantastic package. It all works just the way they said. All the
> hardware was top shelf, and once the fax machine spit out a wiring diagram,
> it went together like a tinkertoy. With the exception of some standard lugs
> and other minor hardware for making connections, a few feet of #4 THHN, some
> conduit, and a few more feet of ground wire, everything I needed was in the
> package.
> I ordered the stuff over the phone and it was all on it's way the very
> next day. It was all packaged to withstand a tornado. The PV panels came on
> a welded steel pallet (I'm told steel is cheaper than wood in Japan) via USF
> Reddaway, and they put the unit right in my truck for me. The UPS driver
> had plenty of fun with the 135 pound inverter after he found the place
> (BFE).
> The system:
> (9) 165 watt Mitsubishi PV panels (they are beautiful things)
> Xantrex 2440 SW inverter (heavy, very heavy)
> Xantrex combiner box and Disconnect panels (furniture grade metal cabinets)
> Outback MPPT 60 charge controller (built like a brick........)
> UniRack mounting system (very heavy duty anodized aluminum w/ SS hardware,
> easy to assemble)
> Xantrex TM 500 digital system monitor (Hours of entertainment value, just
> set for "Amps" and watch the #s change)
> And a bunch of wire, some fuses, connectors, etc. All very nice stuff, and
> at a price that was considerably less than buying it piecemeal. The best
> part was my not needing to figure out what I needed to buy to go with the
> other stuff I needed to buy.
> They aren't listing this kit currently, My guess is they are out of the
> 165 panels.
> I bought my batteries and jumpers locally (Intermountain Battery, Salt
> Lake City) (8) Deka ProMaster 8L16. Good thing I got in myself into shape
> mounting that inverter to the wall. Them batteries are heavy. Trojan L16H
> batteries would have cost nearly double for some reason. Maybe I'll find out
> why in about 5 years.
> Back to my complaint.... The kit didn't come with a basic wiring
> diagram, how the panels connect to each other (surprise! 3 in series), to
> other stuff, where, and with what... I E-mailed, waited half a day and
> called, "someone will get back to you after lunch". I hung around the office
> I hate until the place closed. The next morning I wrote a very angry and
> detailed message. Problem resolved within 10 minutes of them getting it.
> Their customer service was actually the best I've had from anybody in years.
> Don't get me started about home centers...
> I am sure that folks mean well when they say they will get back to you.
> Better to take care of me while you are still on the line, however long it
> takes. That is my only complaint. Not much by most folks standards, but I
> would rather get screwed on weight and measure than be left waiting for a
> call.
> I would buy from them again in a minute, no question. If anyone wants
> details, pictures or the like, let me know.
> Thanks Guys, You know who I am, you know where you shipped it. Sorry
> about the blow up. I would be glad to see you. Call before you drive up
> I-15.
I would like some pics please.
Posted by OldNick on September 26, 2006, 11:22 am
On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 00:55:52 GMT, no one that you know
I wood like you to stop bottom posting oneliners at the bottom of the
whole freaking thread.
>TRecupero wrote:
>>
>> Let me start this by stating that I am a hotheaded, self rightious,
>> narrow minded, arrogant SOB. I also believe that I may be any company's
>> worst nightmare to do business with. Anything you promise, you damned well
>> better deliver, to the letter. My main launch button: "I'll get right back
>> to you..." Yup, that sets the missiles flying, every time. More on that
>> later.
>> Well, It's been eight years in the planning and three years in the
>> building, but the lights are on at the new house out in the desert.
>> We installed the batteries, made the final connections and and flipped
>> all the switches on 9/15. The charge controller woke up, the inverter
>> started humming and it all worked right, right from the start. I plugged in
>> the shop vac and DAMN! This stuff all works! My water pump works, the heat
>> circulators work, the bathroom fan works, all the lights come on. The whole
>> house came to life. I felt like (young) Dr Frankenstein.... IT'S
>> ALIVE!!!!!!!!
>> I need to thank the folks at Solatron Technologies for putting
>> together a fantastic package. It all works just the way they said. All the
>> hardware was top shelf, and once the fax machine spit out a wiring diagram,
>> it went together like a tinkertoy. With the exception of some standard lugs
>> and other minor hardware for making connections, a few feet of #4 THHN, some
>> conduit, and a few more feet of ground wire, everything I needed was in the
>> package.
>> I ordered the stuff over the phone and it was all on it's way the very
>> next day. It was all packaged to withstand a tornado. The PV panels came on
>> a welded steel pallet (I'm told steel is cheaper than wood in Japan) via USF
>> Reddaway, and they put the unit right in my truck for me. The UPS driver
>> had plenty of fun with the 135 pound inverter after he found the place
>> (BFE).
>> The system:
>> (9) 165 watt Mitsubishi PV panels (they are beautiful things)
>> Xantrex 2440 SW inverter (heavy, very heavy)
>> Xantrex combiner box and Disconnect panels (furniture grade metal cabinets)
>> Outback MPPT 60 charge controller (built like a brick........)
>> UniRack mounting system (very heavy duty anodized aluminum w/ SS hardware,
>> easy to assemble)
>> Xantrex TM 500 digital system monitor (Hours of entertainment value, just
>> set for "Amps" and watch the #s change)
>> And a bunch of wire, some fuses, connectors, etc. All very nice stuff, and
>> at a price that was considerably less than buying it piecemeal. The best
>> part was my not needing to figure out what I needed to buy to go with the
>> other stuff I needed to buy.
>> They aren't listing this kit currently, My guess is they are out of the
>> 165 panels.
>> I bought my batteries and jumpers locally (Intermountain Battery, Salt
>> Lake City) (8) Deka ProMaster 8L16. Good thing I got in myself into shape
>> mounting that inverter to the wall. Them batteries are heavy. Trojan L16H
>> batteries would have cost nearly double for some reason. Maybe I'll find out
>> why in about 5 years.
>> Back to my complaint.... The kit didn't come with a basic wiring
>> diagram, how the panels connect to each other (surprise! 3 in series), to
>> other stuff, where, and with what... I E-mailed, waited half a day and
>> called, "someone will get back to you after lunch". I hung around the office
>> I hate until the place closed. The next morning I wrote a very angry and
>> detailed message. Problem resolved within 10 minutes of them getting it.
>> Their customer service was actually the best I've had from anybody in years.
>> Don't get me started about home centers...
>> I am sure that folks mean well when they say they will get back to you.
>> Better to take care of me while you are still on the line, however long it
>> takes. That is my only complaint. Not much by most folks standards, but I
>> would rather get screwed on weight and measure than be left waiting for a
>> call.
>> I would buy from them again in a minute, no question. If anyone wants
>> details, pictures or the like, let me know.
>> Thanks Guys, You know who I am, you know where you shipped it. Sorry
>> about the blow up. I would be glad to see you. Call before you drive up
>> I-15.
>I would like some pics please.
Posted by no one that you know on September 26, 2006, 2:50 pm
OldNick wrote:
>
> On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 00:55:52 GMT, no one that you know
> I wood like you to stop bottom posting oneliners at the bottom of the
> whole freaking thread.
> >
> >
> >TRecupero wrote:
> >>
> >> Let me start this by stating that I am a hotheaded, self rightious,
> >> narrow minded, arrogant SOB. I also believe that I may be any company's
> >> worst nightmare to do business with. Anything you promise, you damned well
> >> better deliver, to the letter. My main launch button: "I'll get right back
> >> to you..." Yup, that sets the missiles flying, every time. More on that
> >> later.
> >> Well, It's been eight years in the planning and three years in the
> >> building, but the lights are on at the new house out in the desert.
> >> We installed the batteries, made the final connections and and flipped
> >> all the switches on 9/15. The charge controller woke up, the inverter
> >> started humming and it all worked right, right from the start. I plugged in
> >> the shop vac and DAMN! This stuff all works! My water pump works, the heat
> >> circulators work, the bathroom fan works, all the lights come on. The whole
> >> house came to life. I felt like (young) Dr Frankenstein.... IT'S
> >> ALIVE!!!!!!!!
> >> I need to thank the folks at Solatron Technologies for putting
> >> together a fantastic package. It all works just the way they said. All the
> >> hardware was top shelf, and once the fax machine spit out a wiring diagram,
> >> it went together like a tinkertoy. With the exception of some standard lugs
> >> and other minor hardware for making connections, a few feet of #4 THHN, some
> >> conduit, and a few more feet of ground wire, everything I needed was in the
> >> package.
> >> I ordered the stuff over the phone and it was all on it's way the very
> >> next day. It was all packaged to withstand a tornado. The PV panels came on
> >> a welded steel pallet (I'm told steel is cheaper than wood in Japan) via USF
> >> Reddaway, and they put the unit right in my truck for me. The UPS driver
> >> had plenty of fun with the 135 pound inverter after he found the place
> >> (BFE).
> >> The system:
> >> (9) 165 watt Mitsubishi PV panels (they are beautiful things)
> >> Xantrex 2440 SW inverter (heavy, very heavy)
> >> Xantrex combiner box and Disconnect panels (furniture grade metal cabinets)
> >> Outback MPPT 60 charge controller (built like a brick........)
> >> UniRack mounting system (very heavy duty anodized aluminum w/ SS hardware,
> >> easy to assemble)
> >> Xantrex TM 500 digital system monitor (Hours of entertainment value, just
> >> set for "Amps" and watch the #s change)
> >> And a bunch of wire, some fuses, connectors, etc. All very nice stuff, and
> >> at a price that was considerably less than buying it piecemeal. The best
> >> part was my not needing to figure out what I needed to buy to go with the
> >> other stuff I needed to buy.
> >> They aren't listing this kit currently, My guess is they are out of the
> >> 165 panels.
> >> I bought my batteries and jumpers locally (Intermountain Battery, Salt
> >> Lake City) (8) Deka ProMaster 8L16. Good thing I got in myself into shape
> >> mounting that inverter to the wall. Them batteries are heavy. Trojan L16H
> >> batteries would have cost nearly double for some reason. Maybe I'll find out
> >> why in about 5 years.
> >> Back to my complaint.... The kit didn't come with a basic wiring
> >> diagram, how the panels connect to each other (surprise! 3 in series), to
> >> other stuff, where, and with what... I E-mailed, waited half a day and
> >> called, "someone will get back to you after lunch". I hung around the office
> >> I hate until the place closed. The next morning I wrote a very angry and
> >> detailed message. Problem resolved within 10 minutes of them getting it.
> >> Their customer service was actually the best I've had from anybody in years.
> >> Don't get me started about home centers...
> >> I am sure that folks mean well when they say they will get back to you.
> >> Better to take care of me while you are still on the line, however long it
> >> takes. That is my only complaint. Not much by most folks standards, but I
> >> would rather get screwed on weight and measure than be left waiting for a
> >> call.
> >> I would buy from them again in a minute, no question. If anyone wants
> >> details, pictures or the like, let me know.
> >> Thanks Guys, You know who I am, you know where you shipped it. Sorry
> >> about the blow up. I would be glad to see you. Call before you drive up
> >> I-15.
> >I would like some pics please.
And I would like you to stop posting one liners at the top of the thread
and lick my sweaty nut sack.
Posted by no one that you know on September 26, 2006, 7:39 pm
Ya well I think oldfart olddick oldnick whatever his name is(asshole)
comment was a little uncalled for....I only posted once at the bottom
once at the bottom of the thread.
TRecupero wrote:
>
> Oh Boy, Flame Net is back up!
> I guess it's too much to ask folks to play nice, Eh?
>
> >
> >
> > OldNick wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 00:55:52 GMT, no one that you know
> > > I wood like you to stop bottom posting oneliners at the bottom of the
> > > whole freaking thread.
> > > >I would like some pics please.
> > And I would like you to stop posting one liners at the top of the thread
> > and lick my sweaty nut sack.
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> rightious,
> narrow minded, arrogant SOB. I also believe that I may be any
> company's
> worst nightmare to do business with. Anything you promise, you
> damned well
> better deliver, to the letter. My main launch button: "I'll get
> right back
> to you..." Yup, that sets the missiles flying, every time. More on
> that
> later.
> Well, It's been eight years in the planning and three years in
> the
> building, but the lights are on at the new house out in the desert.
> We installed the batteries, made the final connections and and
> flipped
> all the switches on 9/15. The charge controller woke up, the
> inverter
> started humming and it all worked right, right from the start. I
> plugged in
> the shop vac and DAMN! This stuff all works! My water pump works,
> the heat
> circulators work, the bathroom fan works, all the lights come on.
> The whole
> house came to life. I felt like (young) Dr Frankenstein.... IT'S
> ALIVE!!!!!!!!
> I need to thank the folks at Solatron Technologies for
> putting
> together a fantastic package. It all works just the way they said.
> All the
> hardware was top shelf, and once the fax machine spit out a wiring
> diagram,
> it went together like a tinkertoy. With the exception of some
> standard lugs
> and other minor hardware for making connections, a few feet of #4
> THHN, some
> conduit, and a few more feet of ground wire, everything I needed was
> in the
> package.
> I ordered the stuff over the phone and it was all on it's way the
> very
> next day. It was all packaged to withstand a tornado. The PV panels
> came on
> a welded steel pallet (I'm told steel is cheaper than wood in Japan)
> via USF
> Reddaway, and they put the unit right in my truck for me. The UPS
> driver
> had plenty of fun with the 135 pound inverter after he found the
> place
> (BFE).
> The system:
> (9) 165 watt Mitsubishi PV panels (they are beautiful things)
> Xantrex 2440 SW inverter (heavy, very heavy)
> Xantrex combiner box and Disconnect panels (furniture grade metal
> cabinets)
> Outback MPPT 60 charge controller (built like a brick........)
> UniRack mounting system (very heavy duty anodized aluminum w/ SS
> hardware,
> easy to assemble)
> Xantrex TM 500 digital system monitor (Hours of entertainment value,
> just
> set for "Amps" and watch the #s change)
> And a bunch of wire, some fuses, connectors, etc. All very nice
> stuff, and
> at a price that was considerably less than buying it piecemeal. The
> best
> part was my not needing to figure out what I needed to buy to go
> with the
> other stuff I needed to buy.
> They aren't listing this kit currently, My guess is they are out
> of the
> 165 panels.
> I bought my batteries and jumpers locally (Intermountain Battery,
> Salt
> Lake City) (8) Deka ProMaster 8L16. Good thing I got in myself into
> shape
> mounting that inverter to the wall. Them batteries are heavy.
> Trojan L16H
> batteries would have cost nearly double for some reason. Maybe I'll
> find out
> why in about 5 years.
> Back to my complaint.... The kit didn't come with a basic wiring
> diagram, how the panels connect to each other (surprise! 3 in
> series), to
> other stuff, where, and with what... I E-mailed, waited half a day
> and
> called, "someone will get back to you after lunch". I hung around
> the office
> I hate until the place closed. The next morning I wrote a very angry
> and
> detailed message. Problem resolved within 10 minutes of them getting
> it.
> Their customer service was actually the best I've had from anybody
> in years.
> Don't get me started about home centers...
> I am sure that folks mean well when they say they will get back
> to you.
> Better to take care of me while you are still on the line, however
> long it
> takes. That is my only complaint. Not much by most folks standards,
> but I
> would rather get screwed on weight and measure than be left waiting
> for a
> call.
> I would buy from them again in a minute, no question. If anyone
> wants
> details, pictures or the like, let me know.
> Thanks Guys, You know who I am, you know where you shipped it.
> Sorry
> about the blow up. I would be glad to see you. Call before you drive
> up
> I-15.
>