Re: START WORK INTENSIVELY ON COLD FUSION NOW!!!

 nightbat wrote

"Richard S. Westmoreland" wrote:

nightbat

        Well Rick, agriculture is very heavy fresh water dependent as a
general rule. And Uncle Al previously posted that the researched and
tried present necessary high fuel processing costs payback for corn or
other fuel crop bushel yields to alcohol conversion ratios were not cost
effective. There is a guy over in newsgroup alt.energy.homepower by the
name of Steve Spence that says the use of spent cooking oil in adapted
diesel engines is economical and feasible if apparently only a few know
about it versus sudden mass demand. Wasn't one of the original German
rear engine diesel Volkswagen, Mercedes cars, or didn't the guy who
invented the diesel engine originally design it to run on peanut oil?


       the nightbat

 
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The water used in agriculture, will always remain to be water, continuously
resupplying in a cycle.  You can't have a net gain of energy from colf
fusion unless some of that water is no longer water, unless I'm missing a
point of how that works.

That is the same argument I hear about alcohol.  Corn does not make an
effective base for alcohol production.  So what?  Is that the only way we
can mass produce alcohol?  Save the corn for the cows.

http://biotech.about.com/library/weekly/aa_gasfromgarbage.htm

http://www.iogen.ca/3000.html

http://www.oceanethanol.com/

Rick

 Well,

I'm sure far from convinced that cold fusion actually exists, let
alone can be made workable for energy production.

But if fusion energy, be it hot or cold, ever becomes a reality, the
actual water consumption will be less than trivial.

The heavy water consumed in the fusion reaction (well actually just
the heavy hydrogen) can be refined from fresh or salt water. There is
simply no way that any amount of fusion power generation would
compromise the supply of water for agriculture. In fact, the opposite
is more likely to be true. Cheap fusion power could make mass
desalination of seawater for irrigation a practicality.

Gordon Richmond

 nightbat wrote

Gordon Richmond wrote:

nightbat

        I am in agreement Gordon that the positive results of increased
scientific power availability from any water based energy productions,
whether it be limited research nuclear or wide scale hydro based, far
outweighs any fears of gross world drop effect on potential water global
sea levels. Some other posters have also indicated for instance if a
pipe line(s) were built from the Pacific Ocean to the California Valley
district regions, which are below sea level and therefore a natural
presented land sink, hugh amounts of California self generated electro
hydro funneled pipe based power could be viably ascertained. And yes, as
Gordon points out, further desalination of sea water for irrigation not
to mention large amounts of recovered valuable sea water minerals for
industry may be obtainable and clean desalinated water made available
for west central farming and rising massive electric power population
needs as a whole. To argue against what we have the most of is counter
productive in the face of dwindling petroleum reserves. Isn't that what
the population expects of their premier scientists and researchers,
applied viable solutions?

If the choice of power dependency is between rising oil prices and
dangerous generating shortages or switching to renewable abundant water
based technologies, and assurance of ready hugh clean power generating
supply, the pointing choice is to the latter due to sheer world market
forces and clear rising population demands.

Look if due to power shortages or the power is randomly interrupted or
reduced to access and maintain the Hubble and other space or land based
star observatories you are going to have a lot of star gazers very
upset. Can you imagine or have you presently checked the waiting list
time already for getting to use or have your experiment observation
placed on the observatory plan for accepted researcher approved
expensive telescope use?  


        the nightbat

 
But what about all the helium that will be getting produced at all
these fusion plants?

Before you know it, we will all be walking around talking like Donald
Duck!

Double-A