Posted by Mike Wilcox on June 9, 2005, 9:24 am
stu wrote:
>
>>
>>John P . Bengi wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Bullshit. Conserving power does absolutely nothing without population
>>>control.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> There has been some fear that HT electricity generates EMF which
>
> causes
>
>>>>cancer
>>>>and infertility (another price to pay). It has indeed been proven
>>>
>>>medically.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Some HT power lines could be made to carry less of a load with
>>>>alternative power
>>>>reduction methods in the home. This is the responsability of the end
>
> user,
>
>>>>you!
>>>>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>Ashley Clarke
>>>>-------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>My Wife and I were out for a drive today. We came to a street that had
>>>>>powerline towers, standing two abreast every hundred yards or so, as
>>>>>far as the eye could see in both directions when some thoughts hit me:
>>>>>
>>>>>What is the expected life of "The Grid" and, what happens when it
>>>>>degrades past maintenance and has to be replaced (and it will)?
>>>>>
>>>>>The price tag on this one has to be astronomical indeed or, will we
>>>>>utilize alternatives that are more cost effective and cheaper to get up
>>>>>and running?
>>>>>
>>>>>RG
>>>>>
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>>>
>>Simple math proves you wrong, if I use my LCD monitor it used 40% of
>>what my old CRT monitor does. This is a huge immediate saving of
>>electricity percentage wise with one simple change, multiple this by
>>dozens of other efficient appliances in the home and it becomes
>>monumental nation wide.
>
> The problem I find with your example is that most people seem to say "it
> cost almost nothing to leave it on" so do just that. The same with CF
> lights, they cost "almost" nothing to run, so why turn them off? So you end
> up going from a 60% saving to say 20%.
>
> now to the reason for my post, does anyone have a figure on total installed
> capacity in the USA, I have a figure of 900000MW, does that sound about
> right? Also what is the split between residential and business? i.e. if no
> electricity was used in homes, how much difference would it make, there are
> a lot of businesses using a lot of electricity on our behalf
>
>
>
I don't know anyone who leaves their monitor or lights on 24/7 just
because " they cost almost nothing to run" ;~). The average American
household uses 600 Kilowatt-hours of electricity per month, about twice
as much energy as the average person in France or England and about 60
percent more than the average Japanese.
Posted by John P . Bengi on June 9, 2005, 5:24 pm
Yes, Thebusunesses are busy designing, creating, manufacturing, packaging,
marketting and transporting more appliances for us to use.
> now to the reason for my post, does anyone have a figure on total
installed
> capacity in the USA, I have a figure of 900000MW, does that sound about
> right? Also what is the split between residential and business? i.e. if no
> electricity was used in homes, how much difference would it make, there
are
> a lot of businesses using a lot of electricity on our behalf
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>>
>>John P . Bengi wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Bullshit. Conserving power does absolutely nothing without population
>>>control.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> There has been some fear that HT electricity generates EMF which
>
> causes
>
>>>>cancer
>>>>and infertility (another price to pay). It has indeed been proven
>>>
>>>medically.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Some HT power lines could be made to carry less of a load with
>>>>alternative power
>>>>reduction methods in the home. This is the responsability of the end
>
> user,
>
>>>>you!
>>>>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>Ashley Clarke
>>>>-------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>My Wife and I were out for a drive today. We came to a street that had
>>>>>powerline towers, standing two abreast every hundred yards or so, as
>>>>>far as the eye could see in both directions when some thoughts hit me:
>>>>>
>>>>>What is the expected life of "The Grid" and, what happens when it
>>>>>degrades past maintenance and has to be replaced (and it will)?
>>>>>
>>>>>The price tag on this one has to be astronomical indeed or, will we
>>>>>utilize alternatives that are more cost effective and cheaper to get up
>>>>>and running?
>>>>>
>>>>>RG
>>>>>
>>>>>----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet
>>>>
>>>>News==----
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World!
>
> 120,000+
>
>>>>Newsgroups
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption
>>>>
>>>>=----
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>Simple math proves you wrong, if I use my LCD monitor it used 40% of
>>what my old CRT monitor does. This is a huge immediate saving of
>>electricity percentage wise with one simple change, multiple this by
>>dozens of other efficient appliances in the home and it becomes
>>monumental nation wide.
>
> The problem I find with your example is that most people seem to say "it
> cost almost nothing to leave it on" so do just that. The same with CF
> lights, they cost "almost" nothing to run, so why turn them off? So you end
> up going from a 60% saving to say 20%.
>
> now to the reason for my post, does anyone have a figure on total installed
> capacity in the USA, I have a figure of 900000MW, does that sound about
> right? Also what is the split between residential and business? i.e. if no
> electricity was used in homes, how much difference would it make, there are
> a lot of businesses using a lot of electricity on our behalf
>
>
>