Posted by Eeyore on June 8, 2008, 11:41 am
MisterE wrote:
> The only thing crazy is your low bill!
You must be an American.
> I would guess most people are at
> least 3 times that much. Though I remember a british study that said 10th of
> all home power is being used by standby, and it was enough for them to start
> banning devices from having a standby mode, effecitvely eliminating 'soft
> power' switches.
Pure TRIPE. No such ban exists. Get all your info from frothing-at-the-mouth
journos do you ? There are however IEC guidelines for standy operation power
consumption and they're hoping to get it down to ONE watt IIRC in new products.
When I measured my set-top-cable-box I did however notice that it measured 17W
in active OR 'standy mode'. Now that's inexcusable (Samsung btw and supplied by
the cable co so no choice in the matter).
Graham
Posted by Eeyore on June 8, 2008, 5:59 pm
Eeyore wrote:
> MisterE wrote:
> > The only thing crazy is your low bill!
> You must be an American.
> > I would guess most people are at
> > least 3 times that much. Though I remember a british study that said 10th of
> > all home power is being used by standby, and it was enough for them to start
> > banning devices from having a standby mode, effecitvely eliminating 'soft
> > power' switches.
> Pure TRIPE. No such ban exists. Get all your info from frothing-at-the-mouth
> journos do you ? There are however IEC guidelines for standy operation power
> consumption and they're hoping to get it down to ONE watt IIRC in new products.
> When I measured my set-top-cable-box I did however notice that it measured 17W
> in active OR 'standy mode'. Now that's inexcusable (Samsung btw and supplied by
> the cable co so no choice in the matter).
And I nearly forgot to say, no 'hard' power switch either, so unplugging is the
only way to stop the energy waste.
Graham
Posted by bealiba on June 8, 2008, 6:30 pm
wrote:
> Eeyore wrote:
> > MisterE wrote:
> > > The only thing crazy is your low bill!
> > You must be an American.
> > > I would guess most people are at
> > > least 3 times that much. Though I remember a british study that said 10th
of
> > > all home power is being used by standby, and it was enough for them to
start
> > > banning devices from having a standby mode, effecitvely eliminating 'soft
> > > power' switches.
> > Pure TRIPE. No such ban exists. Get all your info from frothing-at-the-mouth
> > journos do you ? There are however IEC guidelines for standy operation power
> > consumption and they're hoping to get it down to ONE watt IIRC in new
products.
> > When I measured my set-top-cable-box I did however notice that it measured
17W
> > in active OR 'standy mode'. Now that's inexcusable (Samsung btw and supplied
by
> > the cable co so no choice in the matter).
> And I nearly forgot to say, no 'hard' power switch either, so unplugging is the
> only way to stop the energy waste.
> Graham
The new TV came without a line switch. Couple of bucks and five
minutes and good-by stand by.
Posted by Eeyore on June 8, 2008, 7:22 pm
bealiba@gmail.com wrote:
> Eeyore wrote:
> > Eeyore wrote:
> > > MisterE wrote:
> >
> > > > The only thing crazy is your low bill!
> >
> > > You must be an American.
> >
> > > > I would guess most people are at
> > > > least 3 times that much. Though I remember a british study that said
10th of
> > > > all home power is being used by standby, and it was enough for them to
start
> > > > banning devices from having a standby mode, effecitvely eliminating 'soft
> > > > power' switches.
> >
> > > Pure TRIPE. No such ban exists. Get all your info from
frothing-at-the-mouth
> > > journos do you ? There are however IEC guidelines for standy operation
power
> > > consumption and they're hoping to get it down to ONE watt IIRC in new
products.
> >
> > > When I measured my set-top-cable-box I did however notice that it measured
17W
> > > in active OR 'standy mode'. Now that's inexcusable (Samsung btw and
supplied by
> > > the cable co so no choice in the matter).
> >
> > And I nearly forgot to say, no 'hard' power switch either, so unplugging is
the
> > only way to stop the energy waste.
> The new TV came without a line switch. Couple of bucks and five
> minutes and good-by stand by.
The MANUFACTURER should fit one. In this day and age such power hogs are
INEXCUSABLE.
My 21" Super-res CRT SONY PC monitor only consumes 3W in standby for example. Why
should TVs be worse ?
Graham
Posted by bealiba on June 8, 2008, 8:08 pm
wrote:
> beal...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Eeyore wrote:
> > > Eeyore wrote:
> > > > MisterE wrote:
> > > > > The only thing crazy is your low bill!
> > > > You must be an American.
> > > > > I would guess most people are at
> > > > > least 3 times that much. Though I remember a british study that said
10th of
> > > > > all home power is being used by standby, and it was enough for them to
start
> > > > > banning devices from having a standby mode, effecitvely eliminating
'soft
> > > > > power' switches.
> > > > Pure TRIPE. No such ban exists. Get all your info from
frothing-at-the-mouth
> > > > journos do you ? There are however IEC guidelines for standy operation
power
> > > > consumption and they're hoping to get it down to ONE watt IIRC in new
products.
> > > > When I measured my set-top-cable-box I did however notice that it
measured 17W
> > > > in active OR 'standy mode'. Now that's inexcusable (Samsung btw and
supplied by
> > > > the cable co so no choice in the matter).
> > > And I nearly forgot to say, no 'hard' power switch either, so unplugging
is the
> > > only way to stop the energy waste.
> > The new TV came without a line switch. Couple of bucks and five
> > minutes and good-by stand by.
> The MANUFACTURER should fit one. In this day and age such power hogs are
INEXCUSABLE.
> My 21" Super-res CRT SONY PC monitor only consumes 3W in standby for example.
Why
> should TVs be worse ?
> Graham
Because yanks get their energy at such low prices that they are more
worried about appearances than energy saving. After all If they need
more of anything they just go somewhere and take it.
And yes, the MANUFACTURER should fit one. But it won't happen if the
consumer does not make a point of asking for it.
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