Posted by EXT on July 30, 2007, 9:58 pm
I think I have seen this on TV a few years ago, it is primarily a capacitor,
you plug into a wall outlet.
> Hi
> This may not be the most correct group. But seems like there are
> people here that can answer my question.
> I have seen a unit that is supposed to save money on electricity by
> stabilizing the current and smooth out the sinus(?) curves or
> something like that
> It is supposed to work by just plugging it into any outlet in your
> house.
> Is this a bogus product?
> Here is the text form the webshop:
> -snip-
> You can read the user's guide from the photo gallery on the left,
> which explains how this unit works. Note that the following
> information is provided by the manufacturer.
> .
> - Saves 20% to 30% of electrical consumption
> - Stabilize the supply voltage
> - Reduce electrical overheating and enhances lifespan of appliances
> - Easy to use, maintenance free
> - Earth friendly
> .
> Rated voltage input: 90V-250V
> Rated frequency: 50HZ-60HZ
> Load capacity: 15000W
> -snip-
> --
> SEE YA !!!
> Trygve Lillefosse
> AKA - Malawi, The Fisher King
Posted by Gordon on July 30, 2007, 11:49 pm
> Hi
>
> This may not be the most correct group. But seems like there are
> people here that can answer my question.
>
> I have seen a unit that is supposed to save money on electricity by
> stabilizing the current and smooth out the sinus(?) curves or
> something like that
That's sine. Sinus is your nose.
>
> It is supposed to work by just plugging it into any outlet in your
> house.
>
> Is this a bogus product?
You have to ask??
It's probably just a big capacitor in a box. The idea is that
you can use the capacitive reactance to pull the voltage
and current waveforms out of alignment. (current lags voltage
in an inductive circuit, current leads voltage in a capacitive
circuit). The thing is, your meter can't corectly read power
to a reactive load. It can't correct for the phase shifted
voltage and current waveforms.
So this is a device to try and cheat the meter. But it is
probably too small to make a difference.
Posted by nicksanspam on July 31, 2007, 1:17 am
>... The thing is, your meter can't corectly read power to a reactive load.
Oh? :-)
Nick
Posted by daestrom on July 31, 2007, 7:43 pm
>> Hi
>>
>> This may not be the most correct group. But seems like there are
>> people here that can answer my question.
>>
>> I have seen a unit that is supposed to save money on electricity by
>> stabilizing the current and smooth out the sinus(?) curves or
>> something like that
> That's sine. Sinus is your nose.
>>
>> It is supposed to work by just plugging it into any outlet in your
>> house.
>>
>> Is this a bogus product?
> You have to ask??
> It's probably just a big capacitor in a box. The idea is that
> you can use the capacitive reactance to pull the voltage
> and current waveforms out of alignment. (current lags voltage
> in an inductive circuit, current leads voltage in a capacitive
> circuit). The thing is, your meter can't corectly read power
> to a reactive load. It can't correct for the phase shifted
> voltage and current waveforms.
Not true. Standard kwh meters very correctly measure the real power without
registering the reactive power (unless connected explicitly for reactive
power measurements). The utility charges by the kw-hour and that's exactly
what the meter reads.
A lot of bogus claims over the years have tried to argue that one could
'cheat the meter' by installing inductors/capacitors on the line. Or
magnets above behind the base, or any number of other gimmicks. Very few
will actually affect the meter at all and capacitors isn't one of them.
daestrom
Posted by Eeyore on July 31, 2007, 12:01 am
Trygve Lillefosse wrote:
> Hi
> This may not be the most correct group. But seems like there are
> people here that can answer my question.
> I have seen a unit that is supposed to save money on electricity by
> stabilizing the current and smooth out the sinus(?) curves or
> something like that
It's total nonsense.
Graham
> This may not be the most correct group. But seems like there are
> people here that can answer my question.
> I have seen a unit that is supposed to save money on electricity by
> stabilizing the current and smooth out the sinus(?) curves or
> something like that
> It is supposed to work by just plugging it into any outlet in your
> house.
> Is this a bogus product?
> Here is the text form the webshop:
> -snip-
> You can read the user's guide from the photo gallery on the left,
> which explains how this unit works. Note that the following
> information is provided by the manufacturer.
> .
> - Saves 20% to 30% of electrical consumption
> - Stabilize the supply voltage
> - Reduce electrical overheating and enhances lifespan of appliances
> - Easy to use, maintenance free
> - Earth friendly
> .
> Rated voltage input: 90V-250V
> Rated frequency: 50HZ-60HZ
> Load capacity: 15000W
> -snip-
> --
> SEE YA !!!
> Trygve Lillefosse
> AKA - Malawi, The Fisher King