Posted by Eeyore on April 4, 2009, 3:31 am
Bill Carter wrote:
> Eeyore wrote:
> > Alistair Gunn wrote:
> >> In alt.energy.renewable vaughn twisted the electrons to say:
> >>>
> >>>> You can predict when a convential plant's going to need to be shut down
> >>>> for maintenance, you can't (necessarily) predict when it might end up
> >>>> shut down for other reasons :-
> >>> Whoa! Temporarily borrowing energy from privately owned vehicle
> >>> batteries *might* be useful to help bridge a momentary peak in energy
> >>> demand, but it would do nothing to bridge a longer-term maintenance outage.
> >> <nods> But I never suggested that you could use EV batteries to do that,
> >> I was merely commenting on the suggestion that only wind/solar had
> >> unpredictable outages!
> >>
> >> Using EV batteries as a grid power storage medium it not totally without
> >> merit, but I think there are much better ways of achieving the same goal
> >> such as Dynamic Demand.
> >
> > WTF is 'dynamic demand' ?
> Its something that you could have found out about with a simple google
> search.
You want 'them' to switch my appliances on and off at will. It's an Orwellian
world
badly enough as it is.
Graham
Posted by Alistair Gunn on April 4, 2009, 12:25 pm
In alt.energy.renewable Eeyore twisted the electrons to say:
> You want 'them' to switch my appliances on and off at will. It's an
> Orwellian world badly enough as it is.
Actually it wouldn't be "them" switching your appliances on/off, your
appliances would do it automatically based on their own state and the
condition of the national grid. I haven't found conclusive proof as yet,
but it seems that fridges with this sort of dynamic demand are now being
sold in the UK ...
--
These opinions might not even be mine ...
Let alone connected with my employer ...
Posted by Eeyore on April 4, 2009, 6:11 pm
Alistair Gunn wrote:
> In alt.energy.renewable Eeyore twisted the electrons to say:
> > You want 'them' to switch my appliances on and off at will. It's an
> > Orwellian world badly enough as it is.
> Actually it wouldn't be "them" switching your appliances on/off, your
> appliances would do it automatically based on their own state and the
> condition of the national grid. I haven't found conclusive proof as yet,
> but it seems that fridges with this sort of dynamic demand are now being
> sold in the UK ...
I'd like to know where they get their data from. I'd be pretty pissed off if
my fridge didn't operate say after I'd just defrosted it.
Graham
Posted by Alistair Gunn on April 4, 2009, 7:42 pm
In alt.energy.renewable Eeyore twisted the electrons to say:
> > Actually it wouldn't be "them" switching your appliances on/off, your
> > appliances would do it automatically based on their own state and the
> > condition of the national grid. I haven't found conclusive proof as yet,
> > but it seems that fridges with this sort of dynamic demand are now being
> > sold in the UK ...
> I'd like to know where they get their data from.
It monitors the mains frequency ...
> I'd be pretty pissed off if
> my fridge didn't operate say after I'd just defrosted it.
Fortunately I covered that part by saying "based on their own state".
--
These opinions might not even be mine ...
Let alone connected with my employer ...
Posted by Eeyore on April 4, 2009, 9:12 pm
Alistair Gunn wrote:
> In alt.energy.renewable Eeyore twisted the electrons to say:
> > > Actually it wouldn't be "them" switching your appliances on/off, your
> > > appliances would do it automatically based on their own state and the
> > > condition of the national grid. I haven't found conclusive proof as yet,
> > > but it seems that fridges with this sort of dynamic demand are now being
> > > sold in the UK ...
> > I'd like to know where they get their data from.
> It monitors the mains frequency ...
The mains frequency is very rock solid. It HAS to be for the gris to work. You're
talking crap.
Graham
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> > Alistair Gunn wrote:
> >> In alt.energy.renewable vaughn twisted the electrons to say:
> >>>
> >>>> You can predict when a convential plant's going to need to be shut down
> >>>> for maintenance, you can't (necessarily) predict when it might end up
> >>>> shut down for other reasons :-
> >>> Whoa! Temporarily borrowing energy from privately owned vehicle
> >>> batteries *might* be useful to help bridge a momentary peak in energy
> >>> demand, but it would do nothing to bridge a longer-term maintenance outage.
> >> <nods> But I never suggested that you could use EV batteries to do that,
> >> I was merely commenting on the suggestion that only wind/solar had
> >> unpredictable outages!
> >>
> >> Using EV batteries as a grid power storage medium it not totally without
> >> merit, but I think there are much better ways of achieving the same goal
> >> such as Dynamic Demand.
> >
> > WTF is 'dynamic demand' ?
> Its something that you could have found out about with a simple google
> search.