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Posted by Eeyore on March 27, 2009, 8:01 pm

Bill Carter wrote:

Also absurdly expensive.

Or not at all for days on end.

What extra ?

You're an unscientific simpleton. You probably write for a newspaper.


Posted by Bill Carter on March 28, 2009, 12:43 am
Eeyore wrote:

No it isn't.

Or you don't know what you're talking about. Wind power is very
abundant in specific locations and lousy elsewhere. It is merely
necessary site the turbines appropriately. See this resource map,
much of the western US is rated good-superb and some locations
in east as well.

Oh my poor tender feelings.

Posted by Eeyore on March 28, 2009, 6:01 pm

Bill Carter wrote:

Yes it is. Show me some worked figures. I've posted mine here before. From
solar electricity even in the most suitable areas of the USA costs > 50c / kWh
all proper accounting of costs is done. In more Northern latitudes it's around
$ /

Do you even know what an insolation map is for example ?

Maybe one day someone WILL hit the jackpot and find a way of making cheap solar
cells but that still doesn't fix the problem of storing the electricity for use
when it's needed and that's a good proportion of the above costs.


Posted by Bill Carter on March 29, 2009, 2:44 am
 Eeyore wrote:



$ /

All proper accounting? I didn't see that post but I expect you will have
compared it against all proper accounting associated with all the other
energy sources including environmental damage associated with burning,
fuel mining, waste disposal, water usage, etc. Maybe you can find all
that and repost it.

I realize you think you are something special. Consider the possibility
that this may not actually be the case. We are going to have to invest
in transmission infrastructure that allows us to ship energy from the
places where it is most appropriately generated to the places where it
is needed.

In one post you are bashing wind, in the next its solar. These are
complementary technologies, they are being developed, and we better
pray they will be some form of replacement for what we currently use.

Posted by Eeyore on April 3, 2009, 3:12 am

Bill Carter wrote:


kWh when

around $ /

Does making PV cells not have an environmental cost too ?

Transmission = losses.



Nuclear WILL be the next step.


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