Posted by nospam.clare.nce on July 11, 2005, 9:05 pm
On Mon, 11 Jul 2005 14:51:17 +1000, "Kiwi John"
>have you looked at computer mods for lighting etc its all 12 volt
>> On Thu, 7 Jul 2005 16:28:36 -0400, "Robert Morein"
>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I live in rural eastern New Mexico. High winds combined with fragile
>>>> transmission systems create occassional power outages.
>>>>
>>>> I want to put together a simple, inexpensive emergency power supply
>>>> and want some suggestions.
>>>>
>>>> Here's what I have in mind...
>>>>
>>>> 12V battery (standard, eventually deep-cycle)
>>>
>>>As the other posters say, keep everything extremely low drain. Buy
>>>appliances that run off of 12V. If you have a laptop, use a 12V power
>>>adapter. Don't try to run household appliances. A non-deep-cycle battery
>>>will last perhaps ten cycles.
Depends how deap you cycle the battery. if you go to 80%dod each cycle
reduces the life of the batery by roughly 50%
At a 20%dod, you are looking at less than 5% for sure - more likely
less than 1%. That said - definitely get deep cycle batteries, because
a 20%dod is not a lot of usable power.
>>>
And as for the hydrometer - definitely good to have with flooded acid
batteries - but absolutely useless with AGM (or gell cell).
>>>Make up a list of needs:
>>>radio
>>
>> Have a battery powered local/worldband and a handcrank local (w/
>> flashlight) so I won't have to rely on this setup for those.
>>
>>>light
>>
>> On the list.
>>
>>>clock
>>
>> Wristwatch. {:o)
>>
>>>laptop
>>
>> Need to get a 12V power supply.
>>
>>>razor
>>
>> Never could use an electric razor.
>>
>>>cellphone charger
>>
>> Need one of these, too.
>>
>>>charger for portable appliance batteries
>>
>> Can I get a 12V version? If so, any thoughts on where?
>>
>>>In your list, you do not mention a charge controller. However, this is
>>>necessary to get even minimal life out of the battery, unless you are
>>>willing to stand over it during the charging process.
>>
>> Will I need a charge controller w/ the 12V solar panel or just if I
>> charge w/ a 110V charger (if it doesn't have one built in)?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> -- Christian
>>
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>>
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Posted by me on July 7, 2005, 7:02 pm
>As the other posters say, keep everything extremely low drain. Buy
>appliances that run off of 12V
What abt buying and using one of those portable car
battery jumpers?
They usually have 12 cigarette lighter sockets.
Posted by Steve Spence on July 7, 2005, 7:26 pm
lighter sockets are for very low wattage devices, and are unreliable.
use anderson powerpoles instead.
http://www.powerwerx.com
Steve Spence
Dir., Green Trust, http://www.green-trust.org
Contributing Editor, http://www.off-grid.net
http://www.rebelwolf.com/essn.html
me@privacy.net wrote:
>>As the other posters say, keep everything extremely low drain. Buy
>>appliances that run off of 12V
>
>
> What abt buying and using one of those portable car
> battery jumpers?
>
> They usually have 12 cigarette lighter sockets.
Posted by Christian M. Mericle on July 14, 2005, 11:02 am
I wanted to thank everyone for the help. I'll eventually get
everything together and build this. When I get it done and working,
I'll put together a web page w/ some pics and post the link.
{:o)
-- Christian
On Thu, 07 Jul 2005 10:23:30 -0600, Christian M. Mericle
>Hi all,
>I live in rural eastern New Mexico. High winds combined with fragile
>transmission systems create occassional power outages.
>I want to put together a simple, inexpensive emergency power supply
>and want some suggestions.
>Here's what I have in mind...
>12V battery (standard, eventually deep-cycle)
>120V power inverter (I replaced the low-battery buzzer w/ an LED
>light)
>Small 12V solar panel for recharging
>120V Fluorecent light (to provide light w/ minimum power drain)
>Wooden box (to tie everything together)
>Anything else I need in the way of gauges (I really don't care if the
>battery goes dead while I'm using it) or regulators? This is going to
>be very light duty.
>Maybe there are some websites that could give me some pointers.
>Thanks!
>-- Christian
Save Darfur -- http://www.savedarfur.org/
World Vision (Darfur) --
http://donate.wvus.org/OA_HTML/xxwvibeCCtpItmDspRte.jsp?section 025&item72182
ICC (Sudan) -- http://www.persecution.org/Countries/sudan.html
>> On Thu, 7 Jul 2005 16:28:36 -0400, "Robert Morein"
>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I live in rural eastern New Mexico. High winds combined with fragile
>>>> transmission systems create occassional power outages.
>>>>
>>>> I want to put together a simple, inexpensive emergency power supply
>>>> and want some suggestions.
>>>>
>>>> Here's what I have in mind...
>>>>
>>>> 12V battery (standard, eventually deep-cycle)
>>>
>>>As the other posters say, keep everything extremely low drain. Buy
>>>appliances that run off of 12V. If you have a laptop, use a 12V power
>>>adapter. Don't try to run household appliances. A non-deep-cycle battery
>>>will last perhaps ten cycles.