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Posted by winserverii on February 24, 2015, 4:52 pm
Hi Everybody!

This is a little expensive and is not an Advertisement but, it beats trying
 to re-invent the wheel; Amazon.com has Grid tie inverters and Solar panels

Two wires to the Grid inverter from the Solar panel, plug in the Grid inver
ter to your outlet and your off to the races Saving money.

Of course you can add more Solar Panels for more power.
Of course you can add more Solar power wattage then you actually use.
Of course this will reduce your Power Bill.  
Of course on the Positive side will pay you IF you use less than you Genera
Of course you will be able to see your Power meter slow down.  
Of course you will be able to see your Power meter go backwards.

Lets say your Power bill is $50 a month at $.09 for 1000 Watts an hour
So, your usage for 31 days X 24 Hours66.666666666667 Kilo Watts  
=2.240143369175627 Kilo Watts an hour (Hmmmm, 2KW an Hour seems high)

IF I did my math right; You need 43+ 100 watt Solar panels and five 1000 wa
tt Grid inverters to make your Power meter go backwards (Considering night  
43 X $50 = 6450  <---Just a Guess ya gotta shop a little
5  x $00 =  150  <---Just a Guess
    $600 Plus Wires, Bolts and Stuff <---Just a Guess

   No power Bill and Pays ya back in about 4 Years <---Just a Guess
   After that the money from your power company goes in your pocket!

Side note; Of course you can charge your Car Battery☺

Thanx for Reading and Enjoy!

Posted by Jim Rojas on February 24, 2015, 6:16 pm
On 2/24/2015 11:52 AM, winserverii@gmail.com wrote:

No utility will pay you for excess energy or install a buy back meter  
unless the system is installed by a certified licensed contractor. Plug  
& Play grid tie inverters don't qualify. They intentional do this to get  
you to spend a fortune and then the contractor receives the federal tax  

You are on the right path though. Add a little, then with the savings  
you see on your electric bill, buy more panels a little at a time. You  
will never get rid of the electric bill altogether. They will still  
charge you a base charge. The key is to offset your usage. Solar panels  
do nothing for you during the night, so you might want to add a wind  
turbine, or even a biomass gasifier to fill in the gaps.

I also believe they limit you to 5KW of power generated before you have  
to pull a permit and get annual inspections from a city inspector. The  
minute you go over 5KW, they want a licensed contractor involved.

Jim Rojas

Posted by Ron Rosenfeld on March 9, 2015, 7:41 pm

Just curious as to where it is that "annual inspections from a city inspector" are required.

I'm in eastern Maine and just brought in grid-power to our (formerly) off-grid home.  The system needed to have been installed and/or inspected by a licensed electrician, but once certified, there's nothing else required.
Oh, and the limit in Maine is 10kW (nameplate generating capabilities of the system) for what they call a Level 1 connection.  Higher power generation capabilities do call for more detailed inspections and testing, but by the power company, not a local inspector.
In Maine, we have net-billing, where the meter runs backwards if I generate more than I use; unfortunately, if I generate more than I use, the credit gets zero'd out every twelve months.  Minimum charge is $.63 / month (and that would include 100kW -- not sure if I get credit for that every month, or only in the months I am a consumer, probably the latter).

Posted by mike on February 24, 2015, 10:07 pm
 On 2/24/2015 8:52 AM, winserverii@gmail.com wrote:

Got a link to those $.50/watt shipped and installed panels?

Posted by Vaughn on February 24, 2015, 10:39 pm

Not so fast!  Your power company and your county building department  
have "rules" about these things.  You might be able to get by with an ad  
hock sub-1KW installation, but it likely will never pay for itself.  If  
you have a smart meter, you might not even get away with that!

Also don't fool yourself that you are buying a standby power system,  
because a grid-tie inverter requires the grid to operate.  So if the  
grid goes down, your system will refuse to generate power.

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