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Posted by Morris Dovey on December 13, 2010, 6:02 pm
On 12/12/2010 3:35 PM, Frontier wrote:

LOL! I've seen this in both rural Minnesota and rural Iowa. I think it
must be the story everywhere when people are struggling to do the best
they can with the (too little) they've got. I'm sitting here chuckling,
not at the people or their work, but because somehow such efforts almost
always work out ok, in spite of all the reasons we might come up with as
to why and how things /shouldn't/ have worked out. :)

I was a volunteer fireman for a time, and our favorite way to raise
money for equipment (coats, boots, Scott Packs, etc) was to have
Saturday pancake breakfasts at the firehouse - and my fingers still feel
sticky when I think back to those. I took a look at a satellite view of
the old firehouse on Google maps


and saw that it's grown to about four times the size it was back then
(and eaten my old neighbor's house to the NE). I'd guess that someone,
probably the feds, made a large contribution.

It was in the basement of the house next door where I built my first
passive panels back in '73.

4000 ft^2 is a fairly sizable blessing - my current shop is in a 50x50
rented aircraft hangar and another 1500 ft^2 would have provided
splendiferous space for inventory. You did good!

Morris Dovey


Posted by Frontier on December 11, 2010, 8:50 pm
Also forgot, we are in Central WV 38.34N approximately.

Mark Bolton
Bolton Design Build

Posted by Gordon on December 12, 2010, 1:51 am

If you were to glaze the door openings with a store front type
window system.  The sun would shine in and directly heat the shop.
Very passive, very cheap. To prevent heat loss at night, you
could build a set of bi-fold insulated shutters or doors to
fold over the windows at night.  The advantave of this system
is that it would also provide plenty of natural light for the

Other alternitives are to frame in the openings and leave a
opening at the top and bottom for air flow.  Sheath the frameing
with plywood and paint it black.  Then glaze with used sliding
patio door glass as someone else mentioned.  

There is also a tromb (sp?) wall.  Close the opening with a c
concrete block wall.  Paint the outside black then glaze, as
above.  The sun will heat up the wall, then the heat will
transfer through the block to the inside. If you use hollow
cinder block, you could force air through the interior of the

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