Posted by Tom Peel on December 6, 2005, 11:33 am
Hi
We have a kitchen extractor fan which had the speed control burn out- it
was a pretty crude affair using a huge resistor around 200 Ohm with
sections shunted out with a switch, and this in series with the motor. I
threw it out and bought a solid state speed control unit, the kind with
an external potentiometer to control the motor speed. It works great at
low inputs, however if you try to wind the speed up, the motor starts
"chugging", that is, it speeds up for about 2 seconds, then the speed
dies and drops back, repeating over and over. I guess it must be back
emf from the motor that is causing the current to drop, but it's just a
guess. I have no information about the motor, I guess it's a brushless
induction motor. The speed control is some kind of sealed unit with a
thyristor circuit.
Any idea how I can stop the motor surge and get more output? It seems
odd to me, even if it is back emf, that the speed never stabilises.
T.
Posted by Steve Oakes on December 6, 2005, 5:39 pm
The damn thing is broke! Take it back and get a replacement fan from a
different manufacturer.
Steve
Tom Peel wrote:
> Hi
>
> We have a kitchen extractor fan which had the speed control burn out- it
> was a pretty crude affair using a huge resistor around 200 Ohm with
> sections shunted out with a switch, and this in series with the motor. I
> threw it out and bought a solid state speed control unit, the kind with
> an external potentiometer to control the motor speed. It works great at
> low inputs, however if you try to wind the speed up, the motor starts
> "chugging", that is, it speeds up for about 2 seconds, then the speed
> dies and drops back, repeating over and over. I guess it must be back
> emf from the motor that is causing the current to drop, but it's just a
> guess. I have no information about the motor, I guess it's a brushless
> induction motor. The speed control is some kind of sealed unit with a
> thyristor circuit.
>
> Any idea how I can stop the motor surge and get more output? It seems
> odd to me, even if it is back emf, that the speed never stabilises.
>
> T.
Posted by philkryder on December 7, 2005, 1:58 am
Is it possible that it was mis-packaged and that you received a "dimmer
switch" instead of a motor control switch?
My variable motor control switch starts at HIGH speed when you click it
on and then reduces as you turn it further clockwise.
This is just the opposite of my dimmer switches which start out low and
INCREASE as you turn them.
Just a thought.
Phil
Posted by Tom Peel on December 7, 2005, 11:15 am
Steve Oakes wrote:
It is not broken.
> The damn thing is broke! Take it back and get a replacement fan from a
> different manufacturer.
>
> Steve
>
> Tom Peel wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> We have a kitchen extractor fan which had the speed control burn out-
>> it was a pretty crude affair using a huge resistor around 200 Ohm with
>> sections shunted out with a switch, and this in series with the motor.
>> I threw it out and bought a solid state speed control unit, the kind
>> with an external potentiometer to control the motor speed. It works
>> great at low inputs, however if you try to wind the speed up, the
>> motor starts "chugging", that is, it speeds up for about 2 seconds,
>> then the speed dies and drops back, repeating over and over. I guess
>> it must be back emf from the motor that is causing the current to
>> drop, but it's just a guess. I have no information about the motor, I
>> guess it's a brushless induction motor. The speed control is some kind
>> of sealed unit with a thyristor circuit.
>>
>> Any idea how I can stop the motor surge and get more output? It seems
>> odd to me, even if it is back emf, that the speed never stabilises.
>>
>> T.
>
>
Posted by Steve Oakes on December 7, 2005, 5:14 pm
If it wasn't broken, you wouldn't be asking about it making the
"chugging" sound when you wind up the speed. It isn't normal operation
for fans to make "chugging" sounds. Take it back or call customer
support so they can tell you it's broken.
Steve
Tom Peel wrote:
> Steve Oakes wrote:
>
> It is not broken.
>
>> The damn thing is broke! Take it back and get a replacement fan from
>> a different manufacturer.
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> Tom Peel wrote:
>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> We have a kitchen extractor fan which had the speed control burn out-
>>> it was a pretty crude affair using a huge resistor around 200 Ohm
>>> with sections shunted out with a switch, and this in series with the
>>> motor. I threw it out and bought a solid state speed control unit,
>>> the kind with an external potentiometer to control the motor speed.
>>> It works great at low inputs, however if you try to wind the speed
>>> up, the motor starts "chugging", that is, it speeds up for about 2
>>> seconds, then the speed dies and drops back, repeating over and over.
>>> I guess it must be back emf from the motor that is causing the
>>> current to drop, but it's just a guess. I have no information about
>>> the motor, I guess it's a brushless induction motor. The speed
>>> control is some kind of sealed unit with a thyristor circuit.
>>>
>>> Any idea how I can stop the motor surge and get more output? It
>>> seems odd to me, even if it is back emf, that the speed never
>>> stabilises.
>>>
>>> T.
>>
>>
>>
>
> We have a kitchen extractor fan which had the speed control burn out- it
> was a pretty crude affair using a huge resistor around 200 Ohm with
> sections shunted out with a switch, and this in series with the motor. I
> threw it out and bought a solid state speed control unit, the kind with
> an external potentiometer to control the motor speed. It works great at
> low inputs, however if you try to wind the speed up, the motor starts
> "chugging", that is, it speeds up for about 2 seconds, then the speed
> dies and drops back, repeating over and over. I guess it must be back
> emf from the motor that is causing the current to drop, but it's just a
> guess. I have no information about the motor, I guess it's a brushless
> induction motor. The speed control is some kind of sealed unit with a
> thyristor circuit.
>
> Any idea how I can stop the motor surge and get more output? It seems
> odd to me, even if it is back emf, that the speed never stabilises.
>
> T.