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Posted by Falcon on July 21, 2011, 4:14 pm

 On Thu, 21 Jul 2011 17:46:08 +0200, Tom P wrote ...

No. I don't know the technical details. It's apparently a very simple
switching metering cct that routes any surplus energy the panels generate
to the grid. See:
for the basic idea.

fide, sed cui vide. (L)

Posted by hda on July 21, 2011, 11:43 am

Yeah, heavily subsidized.

I pay 7.9 eurocent to DONG plus (13.3 - 4.7) eurocent in Tax per KWh
== 16.5 eurocents. Next on top fixed costs for delivery:  5.4
eurocents. So 21.9 (incl. VAT)

You receive 526/2000 = 26.3 (incl VAT) eurocents per KWh

Why do you receive (26.3 - 7.9) more than marketprice ?

Posted by Tom P on July 21, 2011, 4:04 pm
 On 07/21/2011 01:43 PM, hda wrote:

I don't. The tariff price for electricity is around 20-25 c per kwh
depending on the supplier and the terms of the contract. Like I said,
the difference between the grid feed-in tariff and household tariff is
not large.
Also your calculation is not accurate. The feed-in tariff is currently
28c. The 526 is a flat rate estimate of what the utility thinks the PV
installation has delivered in 6 months, based on the technical
  If you want the precise gory details, they estimated 1896 kwh times
28c is 531 minus 1 per month for the meter rental makes 526. The
monthly payments from now on are 75 - almost exactly the same as what
we pay for electricity.

Posted by hda on July 21, 2011, 5:44 pm

That there is no difference between TakeOut and FeedIn an is the whole
point !
You are a supplier. So therefore you as producer/supplier do receive
too high a price. The selling price is just around 8 eurocent/KWh !
All other is tax and delivery. I would be surprised if Germany is so
different from Netherlands in Europe...

Huh ? No argue about precision but concept. But anyway, there is
nothing new in the above information you give. You should be able to
know about how the consumer german KWh-price is build up.

It is not about details or precision of numbers. The concept is that
you are supported by government with about 20 cents/KWh.

Posted by m II on July 23, 2011, 7:35 pm
 Let's not forget about the loss of income revenue or interest paid out each
year for the money used.

11,000 x 5% per annum =  550/ per annum off the salesman's glory. We won't
discuss the maintenance costs of repair and replacement.

Please ignore the m II trolling me constantly. He uses many different names
and does anything in his power to disrupt groups, everywhere.

It is not about details or precision of numbers. The concept is that
you are supported by government with about 20 cents/KWh.

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