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Posted by clare on April 2, 2009, 9:56 pm
 
wrote:


 Stand in water with bare feet and you won't feel much if anything.
Ground yourself to the box, nothing.

Posted by BradGuth on March 23, 2009, 5:46 pm
 

Obviously you use only the least spendy lamps, but otherwise you are
100% correct that this fiasco is a government and Big Energy Ponzi
kind of thing, making the next generations pay for our mistakes.

Proper incandescent lamps having xenon gas are reliable, robust,
fairly energy efficient and offer the least birth-to-grave polluting
to our environment.  LED lamps are a perpetual cost ripoff with almost
no end in sight.  You can also divide the life of the florescent or
LED lamps by roughly half of whatever their fancy packaging says.

I have to use three 100 watt equivalent florescent lamps in order to
illuminate the same as a 150 W incandescent, so it's bulky and at best
half the energy savings at more than ten fold the lamp cost, and there
are a few other detractors.

It's all a big game, and the house of cards always takes its cut, as
in whatever it takes in order to get us to spend our hard earned loot.


 ~ BG

Posted by Ken Maltby on March 23, 2009, 6:40 pm
 

Obviously you use only the least spendy lamps, but otherwise you are
100% correct that this fiasco is a government and Big Energy Ponzi
kind of thing, making the next generations pay for our mistakes.

Proper incandescent lamps having xenon gas are reliable, robust,
fairly energy efficient and offer the least birth-to-grave polluting
to our environment.  LED lamps are a perpetual cost ripoff with almost
no end in sight.  You can also divide the life of the florescent or
LED lamps by roughly half of whatever their fancy packaging says.

I have to use three 100 watt equivalent florescent lamps in order to
illuminate the same as a 150 W incandescent, so it's bulky and at best
half the energy savings at more than ten fold the lamp cost, and there
are a few other detractors.

It's all a big game, and the house of cards always takes its cut, as
in whatever it takes in order to get us to spend our hard earned loot.

 ~ BG

  I find it interesting that no one is mentioning the Environmental
Greenie movement as having any responsibility, for the precieved
defects of such products touted as Earth Friendly.

  How do you distractors explain actual measured energy savings?

  As to cost, they are highly subsidized, around here.  While I oppose
such artifical price manipulation, it does mean that I can get them for
99 cents a piece, at my local HEB (grocery store).

 Luck;
     Ken



Posted by Eeyore on March 24, 2009, 10:38 pm
 

BradGuth wrote:


Coming up soon, ultra-efficient halogen lamps from both GE and Philips. Not as
efficient as CFL ( about twice the power consumption) but with natural colour
temperatures and no 'peakiness' in the spectrum.

Graham


Posted by vaughn on March 23, 2009, 7:15 pm
 

   Do you have any proof of that nonsense?


   I don't know about "rip off" but they are way down the curve in
cost/value as far as I am conerned.



   Proof?  I have so few of them fail, I really have no idea how long they
last.  When I finally replace one, its replacement has probably been
downstairs on the shelf for the last 3 years waiting for it to be needed.


   Again, just more nonsense.


.  In my world, CFLs are a huge bargain. I don't know what happened in your
world.

Vaughn



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