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Posted by clare on March 23, 2009, 8:38 pm
On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:15:33 GMT, "vaughn"

 We were living in this house over 10 years before I had to replace
any of the PAR lamps in the ceiling fixtures. At the second
replacement of the first bulb I decided to put in CFs. I have not had
a single one last 3 years. Most have failed within the first year to
18 months, and they were not cheap.
Also, they come on so dim you sometimes wonder if they are coming on
at all, and take a fairly long time to come to full brightness. I put
hallogens in my office, with one CF PAR at the stairway.
The PAR CFs give significantly less light than the original
incandescent PARs as well - even after they get up to full brightness.

 The current batch are Sylvania and cost me $1.00 Canadian each.

Posted by wmbjkREMOVE on March 23, 2009, 10:31 pm
On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:38:59 -0400, clare@snyder.on.ca wrote:

About two dozen CFLs here, all >10 years old. They're the frequently
maligned Lights of America brand, quad-tube cartridge type floods,
more instant-on than some newer versions, but not quite as bright per
watt. Two failures, the ones we use most often. I swapped them out for
some of the originals that were used least, and replaced those with
some of the 3 for $0 kind. Nice stable off-grid power here, none of
the frequent brown outs like we had at our last place which was on the
grid in California.


Posted by Eeyore on March 24, 2009, 10:52 pm

clare@snyder.on.ca wrote:

What brand were these ? I had one CFL ( Osram ? ) that seemed to last forever
and the dim start is usually associated with unusually cold temps. I have
several that appear to give full brightness from switch-on at all times.

They key is NOT to buy cheap 'off-name' brands other than to experiment. I'll
repeat I have had good results with Philips ( although the cheaper Chinese made
'Genie' series aren't as good as older variants ) and Osram. I think Osram =
Sylvania in the US. Also look at the projected lifetime. It can vary  from 6,000
to 15,000 hours and guess which perform better !


Posted by clare on March 25, 2009, 3:39 am
 On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 22:52:31 +0000, Eeyore

 The PARs are Sylvania and cost me 11 bucks each. One set was replaced
under warranty.

Posted by Jim Wilkins on March 25, 2009, 10:39 am
 I've had so many CFLs die early that I put incandescents back in the
closets and stairwells. Two dead ones retained for autopsy are GE and

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