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Posted by Eeyore on March 24, 2009, 10:47 pm

vaughn wrote:

He has a small and just point here but has over-exaggerated it. Close reading
of a UK Philips CFL package compares the CFL light output to a 'softone' bulb,
not GLS. Softone bulbs were popular in the 80s for 'mood lighting' and are not
as efficient as the typical GLS lamp.

It was very foolish IMHO to make such a false comparison. It's the kind of
thing that makes you feel you're being taken for a ride. An 18W CFL most
certainly does NOT match a 100W GLS for lumens output, you'd need 23-25W to do

Having said that all but two lamps in my home are CFL types. I get on with them
OK, but wish higher wattages were more readily available as I prefer good


Posted by Eeyore on March 24, 2009, 10:14 pm

Bluuuue Rajah wrote:

Then you bought a cheap crappy one. I've never expereinced any of those effects
and I started using them about 15-20 years ago. Buy a good brand. I find
Philips and Osram to be amongst the best.


Posted by clare on March 25, 2009, 3:36 am
 On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 22:14:36 +0000, Eeyore

 The first set to die foe me has the Osram name. I have a couple
"clobe style that I believe are Philips - they are just over 1 1/2
years old now - still working but a bit slow to light.
Just checked - those are Ikea bulbs - the cheapest I've purchaced, and
so far the best.

Posted by Eeyore on March 24, 2009, 10:15 pm

Eric Swanson wrote:

Posted by Eeyore on March 24, 2009, 10:40 pm

Ken Maltby wrote:

Politics. I can get good branded ones ( Philips ) for even less in the UK.


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