Posted by Eeyore on March 24, 2009, 10:47 pm
vaughn wrote:
> >I have to use three 100 watt equivalent florescent lamps in order to
> >illuminate the same as a 150 W incandescent, so it's bulky and at best
> >half the energy savings at more than ten fold the lamp cost, and there
> >are a few other detractors.
> Again, just more nonsense.
He has a small and just point here but has over-exaggerated it. Close reading
of a UK Philips CFL package compares the CFL light output to a 'softone' bulb,
not GLS. Softone bulbs were popular in the 80s for 'mood lighting' and are not
as efficient as the typical GLS lamp.
It was very foolish IMHO to make such a false comparison. It's the kind of
thing that makes you feel you're being taken for a ride. An 18W CFL most
certainly does NOT match a 100W GLS for lumens output, you'd need 23-25W to do
that.
Having said that all but two lamps in my home are CFL types. I get on with them
OK, but wish higher wattages were more readily available as I prefer good
ilumination.
Graham
Posted by Eeyore on March 24, 2009, 10:14 pm
Bluuuue Rajah wrote:
> I bought my first compact fluorescent bulb, and I despise it. It flickers
> when it's off and buzzes loudly and when it's on.
Then you bought a cheap crappy one. I've never expereinced any of those effects
and I started using them about 15-20 years ago. Buy a good brand. I find
Philips and Osram to be amongst the best.
Graham
Posted by clare on March 25, 2009, 3:36 am
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 22:14:36 +0000, Eeyore
>Bluuuue Rajah wrote:
>> I bought my first compact fluorescent bulb, and I despise it. It flickers
>> when it's off and buzzes loudly and when it's on.
>Then you bought a cheap crappy one. I've never expereinced any of those effects
>and I started using them about 15-20 years ago. Buy a good brand. I find
>Philips and Osram to be amongst the best.
>Graham
The first set to die foe me has the Osram name. I have a couple
"clobe style that I believe are Philips - they are just over 1 1/2
years old now - still working but a bit slow to light.
Just checked - those are Ikea bulbs - the cheapest I've purchaced, and
so far the best.
Posted by Eeyore on March 24, 2009, 10:15 pm
Eric Swanson wrote:
> You know how Microsoft knows how to design hardware.
LMAO !
Graham
Posted by Eeyore on March 24, 2009, 10:40 pm
Ken Maltby wrote:
> As to cost, they are highly subsidized, around here. While I oppose
> such artifical price manipulation, it does mean that I can get them for
> 99 cents a piece, at my local HEB (grocery store).
Politics. I can get good branded ones ( Philips ) for even less in the UK.
Graham
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> >illuminate the same as a 150 W incandescent, so it's bulky and at best
> >half the energy savings at more than ten fold the lamp cost, and there
> >are a few other detractors.
> Again, just more nonsense.