Posted by RoyJ on June 24, 2010, 3:36 pm
Good comment about testing fully loaded. I just picked up a 20 kw
electric furnace heating assembly. I'll derate it by running the
elements on 120 rather than 240, makes for a nice switch selectable 5 kw
load bank. The OP could make do with 2 or 3 stove burner elements.
>
> Also when you wake up at 3AM worrying about mice, consider doing a
> exercise run of the generator set. Run for about an hour or so (fully
> loaded) at least every 30 days, and at critical times, maybe every two
> weeks. Also don't forget to keep the battery charged! (and to have
> fuel, lots of fuel, on hand...)
Posted by JosephKK on June 26, 2010, 11:48 am
>Good comment about testing fully loaded. I just picked up a 20 kw
>electric furnace heating assembly. I'll derate it by running the
>elements on 120 rather than 240, makes for a nice switch selectable 5 kw
>load bank. The OP could make do with 2 or 3 stove burner elements.
>>
>> Also when you wake up at 3AM worrying about mice, consider doing a
>> exercise run of the generator set. Run for about an hour or so (fully
>> loaded) at least every 30 days, and at critical times, maybe every two
>> weeks. Also don't forget to keep the battery charged! (and to have
>> fuel, lots of fuel, on hand...)
Check the _actual_ draw on the heater assembly at 120 V (with proper air
or water running through it). It may turn out to be anywhere from 2 kW
to 10 kW.
Posted by RoyJ on June 26, 2010, 2:12 pm
JosephKK wrote:
>
>> Good comment about testing fully loaded. I just picked up a 20 kw
>> electric furnace heating assembly. I'll derate it by running the
>> elements on 120 rather than 240, makes for a nice switch selectable 5 kw
>> load bank. The OP could make do with 2 or 3 stove burner elements.
>>> Also when you wake up at 3AM worrying about mice, consider doing a
>>> exercise run of the generator set. Run for about an hour or so (fully
>>> loaded) at least every 30 days, and at critical times, maybe every two
>>> weeks. Also don't forget to keep the battery charged! (and to have
>>> fuel, lots of fuel, on hand...)
>
> Check the _actual_ draw on the heater assembly at 120 V (with proper air
> or water running through it). It may turn out to be anywhere from 2 kW
> to 10 kW.
I did a quick check when I got the unit: Each element is rated 2500
watts at 240v. That would be 625 watts at 120. I measured the cold
resistance on a couple of them at 23.1 ohms and 23.8 ohms, ran one of
them on 120 line voltage, measured 122 volts, 5 amps, 612 watts on a
real wattmeter. I was surprised it was that close to the rated specs.
The good part was that it runs cool enough that a fan is not mandatory.
Posted by RoyJ on June 24, 2010, 3:58 am
amdx wrote:
> Hurricane season is coming and I needed to get a source of emergency
> power to keep my business inventory frozen
> if we do lose power. I don't have a convenient place to permanently place
> the generator, so I decided to put it on a
> trailer. Now I can store it in the back yard and move it near the house as
> needed.
> I was almost ready to buy the Honda EU6500isa for $,400 but found the
> Miller Bobcat 250 for $,389 with
> 58% more watts and I think the welder will hold it's value better, so I
> bought the Miller.
>
> I got the trailer from Harbor Freight, Regular price $59.99 on sale for
> $99.99 but I was only billed $79.99. :-)
>
http://www.harborfreight.com/1090-lb-capacity-40-1-2-half-inch-x-48-inch-mini-utility-trailer-with-12-inch-four-lug-wheels-and-tires-90153.html
>
> I bought a Miller Bobcat 250 welder with 9,500 watts continuous power.
> http://www.harrisweldingsupplies.com/millerwelderbobcat250.aspx
> Check their ebay price, $00 cheaper but they offered the ebay price to me.
>
> Pictures below.
>
> My son helping with assembly in the living room. Air conditioned workshop
> (wife was working)
> http://i395.photobucket.com/albums/pp37/Qmavam/P1013355.jpg
>
> Trailer assembled except for fenders.
> http://i395.photobucket.com/albums/pp37/Qmavam/P1013356.jpg
>
> Trailer with 3/4" plywood base.
> http://i395.photobucket.com/albums/pp37/Qmavam/P1013357.jpg
>
> Trailer with welder mounted, Balance worked out well, about 30 lb tongue
> weight.
> http://i395.photobucket.com/albums/pp37/Qmavam/P1013366.jpg
> I can push it around the yard myself.
> Welder is 560 lbs, trailer rated at 1090 lbs.
> Don't have plans to tow it on road, but trailer came with title, fenders and
> lights.
>
> I'll be adding a drop on cover to keep the rain off.
> Cover design thoughts still churning.
>
> Mike
>
>
Tongue weight is a bit light if you plan to actually tow it on the
highway. Rule of thumb for smaller trailers is tongue weight = 10% of
gross trailer weight, more if the CG is high. The short tongue and light
tongue weight will really wag badly. Move the unit about 2" forward and
you should be good to go.
Posted by amdx on June 24, 2010, 9:25 am
> amdx wrote:
>> Hurricane season is coming and I needed to get a source of emergency
>> power to keep my business inventory frozen
>> if we do lose power. I don't have a convenient place to permanently place
>> the generator, so I decided to put it on a
>> trailer. Now I can store it in the back yard and move it near the house
>> as needed.
>> I was almost ready to buy the Honda EU6500isa for $,400 but found the
>> Miller Bobcat 250 for $,389 with
>> 58% more watts and I think the welder will hold it's value better, so I
>> bought the Miller.
>>
>> I got the trailer from Harbor Freight, Regular price $59.99 on sale for
>> $99.99 but I was only billed $79.99. :-)
>>
http://www.harborfreight.com/1090-lb-capacity-40-1-2-half-inch-x-48-inch-mini-utility-trailer-with-12-inch-four-lug-wheels-and-tires-90153.html
>>
>> I bought a Miller Bobcat 250 welder with 9,500 watts continuous power.
>> http://www.harrisweldingsupplies.com/millerwelderbobcat250.aspx
>> Check their ebay price, $00 cheaper but they offered the ebay price to
>> me.
>>
>> Pictures below.
>>
>> My son helping with assembly in the living room. Air conditioned workshop
>> (wife was working)
>> http://i395.photobucket.com/albums/pp37/Qmavam/P1013355.jpg
>>
>> Trailer assembled except for fenders.
>> http://i395.photobucket.com/albums/pp37/Qmavam/P1013356.jpg
>>
>> Trailer with 3/4" plywood base.
>> http://i395.photobucket.com/albums/pp37/Qmavam/P1013357.jpg
>>
>> Trailer with welder mounted, Balance worked out well, about 30 lb tongue
>> weight.
>> http://i395.photobucket.com/albums/pp37/Qmavam/P1013366.jpg
>> I can push it around the yard myself.
>> Welder is 560 lbs, trailer rated at 1090 lbs.
>> Don't have plans to tow it on road, but trailer came with title, fenders
>> and lights.
>>
>> I'll be adding a drop on cover to keep the rain off.
>> Cover design thoughts still churning.
>>
>> Mike
> Tongue weight is a bit light if you plan to actually tow it on the
> highway. Rule of thumb for smaller trailers is tongue weight = 10% of
> gross trailer weight, more if the CG is high. The short tongue and light
> tongue weight will really wag badly. Move the unit about 2" forward and
> you should be good to go.
I'll keep that rule of thumb in mind. I got lucky on the balance, I
centered
the welder with the engine to the rear and it came out as stated. The welder
is 45-3/8" and the trailer is 48", no more room to move unit forward.
If it had been negative weight on the tongue, I had thoughts about moving
the axle/spring mounting location. Or rotating the welder 180*, I might
still look into that as it would be slightly more convenient to have the
controls and connections in the rear.
Mike
Mike
> Also when you wake up at 3AM worrying about mice, consider doing a
> exercise run of the generator set. Run for about an hour or so (fully
> loaded) at least every 30 days, and at critical times, maybe every two
> weeks. Also don't forget to keep the battery charged! (and to have
> fuel, lots of fuel, on hand...)