Posted by krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz on July 10, 2010, 3:46 am
>On Thu, 08 Jul 2010 17:29:48 -0500, "krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz"
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>>>On Wed, 07 Jul 2010 17:35:45 -0500, "krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz"
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>>>>>On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 17:53:59 -0500, "krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz"
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>>>>>>I was kinda wondering what you folks were bugging out with that would
require
>>>>>>a trailer. I'm a couple of hundred miles from the coast so if I even
thought
>>>>>>I'd have to leave I hadn't considering leaving with anything but some
clothes
>>>>>>and perhaps the cats. ;-) You got me thinking, though. Maybe I'd take
the
>>>>>>truck instead of the car, but that makes traveling with the cats a bit more
>>>>>>problem. Maybe both, and let SWMBO take the cats. ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>How do you store enough fuel to make it worthwhile, safely? A 5-gal can is
>>>>>>easy, but that's not a lot.
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>>>>>
>>>>>You have a truck..and you ask that?????
>>>>
>>>>Certainly. Even small trucks, like mine, drink the stuff. If it's available
>>>>when the evacuation occurs I wouldn't need to take any. If it's not, I'm not
>>>>evacuating. Again, how do you store a worthwhile amount of fuel safely?
>>>
>>>
>>>I have MULTIPLE 5gal steel military gas cans that go into the back of
>>>the vehicle when I head somewhere that may be short on fuel.
>>
>>Where do you store them? Remember, the only reason to have gas cans is that
>>gas may not be available when you have to bug out. That means storing them
>>full, and all that goes with it. Were gas available, all you need is money. A
>>*lot* of that can be stored safely.
>I store the trailer cans..on the trailer (my property is well fenced and
>I have dogs) and the loose cans are stored in an outbuilding. Most are
>kept full, and every couple months, Ill dump 2 cans into the vehicles,
>schlep them down and refill them, and place them in the B rack. This
>ensures that none go too stale (I also drop a bit of Stabil in each can
>when I fill them) and that I have gas on hand.
My point was that not everyone has a place to store significant quantities of
gas safely. It's not nice stuff to store, in comparison with diesel, for
instance.
>I learned long ago,...that emergencies of most types..dont give you any
>warning signs..and some are so sudden..any other sources of gasoline may
>be destroyed/disrupted at the onset.
Again, my point.
>I was one of the 9000 victims of the Coalinga Earthquake in 83....and
>other "fun" stuff. I live in California...
>Did I mention that all the gas stations were DOWN for a radius of 10
>miles?
I generally keep enough gas in my vehicles to make 10 miles. ;-)
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>><snip - once the above is answered we can get on to what sort of can to buy>
>One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
>in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
>and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
>not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
No argument here. Take Slowman, please!
Posted by Gunner Asch on July 10, 2010, 6:03 am
On Fri, 09 Jul 2010 22:46:12 -0500, "krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz"
>>I store the trailer cans..on the trailer (my property is well fenced and
>>I have dogs) and the loose cans are stored in an outbuilding. Most are
>>kept full, and every couple months, Ill dump 2 cans into the vehicles,
>>schlep them down and refill them, and place them in the B rack. This
>>ensures that none go too stale (I also drop a bit of Stabil in each can
>>when I fill them) and that I have gas on hand.
>My point was that not everyone has a place to store significant quantities of
>gas safely. It's not nice stuff to store, in comparison with diesel, for
>instance.
So instead of storing 10-20 gallons in steel airtight cans in your
garage or outside under cover..you keep a plastic 5 gallon can.
Well..if it works for you..go for it.
>>I learned long ago,...that emergencies of most types..dont give you any
>>warning signs..and some are so sudden..any other sources of gasoline may
>>be destroyed/disrupted at the onset.
>Again, my point.
So you store 5 gallons instead of a suitable amount.
>>I was one of the 9000 victims of the Coalinga Earthquake in 83....and
>>other "fun" stuff. I live in California...
>>
>>Did I mention that all the gas stations were DOWN for a radius of 10
>>miles?
>I generally keep enough gas in my vehicles to make 10 miles. ;-)
So what happens if the outage is more than 10 miles?
Btw...there was (1) gas station in that 10 mile range. The next closet
one was 32 miles.
Hope you got enough range to make it to your closest functioning gas
station when your power is out due to a major distribution outage.
And there arent 100,000 people between it..and you...and the roads are
passible.
And you have cash. Because most of the ATM and card readers may be out.
Shrug.
Its your life. Do what you will with it.
As for me...one of my long time hangouts, is misc.survivalism.
Both as a teacher and a student.
Gunner
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>>><snip - once the above is answered we can get on to what sort of can to buy>
>>
>>One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
>>in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
>>and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
>>not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
>No argument here. Take Slowman, please!
One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
Gunner Asch
Posted by (PeteCresswell) on July 10, 2010, 3:14 pm
RE/
>storing 10-20 gallons in steel airtight cans in your
>garage or outside under cover..you keep a plastic 5 gallon can.
Based on experience, I wouldn't store even *one* gallon of
gasoline in my garage or anywhere else even close to my house.
You have a fire or something and "Boom"....
Also, don't knock plastic: at least it doesn't rust.
Once I found a two-gallon steel can that had rusted out in the
bottom and allowed it's entire contents to dribble out onto the
floor.
--
PeteCresswell
Posted by Gunner Asch on July 10, 2010, 3:47 pm
wrote:
>RE/
>>storing 10-20 gallons in steel airtight cans in your
>>garage or outside under cover..you keep a plastic 5 gallon can.
>Based on experience, I wouldn't store even *one* gallon of
>gasoline in my garage or anywhere else even close to my house.
Then you dont store your vehicle in your garage either. Right?
>You have a fire or something and "Boom"....
>Also, don't knock plastic: at least it doesn't rust.
True indeed. And sometimes when you drop one, they dont split open. On
the other hand..sometimes they do. And if you leave them out in the sun
for any apprciable amount of time..they go white, then get
fragile..really fragile. Which I found out about about 15 yrs ago when
I had my liquids stocks partially in plastic cans. Fortunately the ones
that fell apart held only high sulpher cutting oils. Which while making
a hell of a mess..didnt have the capability of exploding into flames.
>Once I found a two-gallon steel can that had rusted out in the
>bottom and allowed it's entire contents to dribble out onto the
>floor.
I once had a VW that had rusted out the floor in the rear passenger
compartment.
This was the result of piss poor prior planning by prior possessers <G>
You guys do what you wish. It is after all...YOUR problem to handle as
best as you can.
As for me...shrug..Ill simply continue to offer Suggestions, which you
are free to take, or not. Your life, not mine.
Gunner
One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
Gunner Asch
Posted by Josepi on July 10, 2010, 8:52 pm
...and the neighbours on either side too
Your life, not mine.
Gunner
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>>>On Wed, 07 Jul 2010 17:35:45 -0500, "krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz"
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>>>>>On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 17:53:59 -0500, "krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz"
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>>>>>>I was kinda wondering what you folks were bugging out with that would