Posted by daestrom on July 12, 2010, 5:40 pm
z wrote:
>
>> "krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz" wrote:
>>> I generally keep enough gas in my vehicles to make 10 miles. ;-)
>>
>> When the last hurricanes hit N Central Florida, gasoline trucks were
>> stopped at the state lines. Most stations don't have backup
> generators,
>> and people evacuating the area wiped out 99% of the available fuel, so
>> it would be a couple hundred miles to the nearest source of fuel. Now
>> that a new law took effect about upgrading underground fuel tanks,
> about
>> half the stations around here are either closed, or have just had the
>> tanks removed. Most can't afford the $500,000 to replace everything
> and
>> come up to the new code. that means that there will be that much less
>> fuel available, next time.
>>
>> Not only that, but it took several gallons of gasoline and the
> better
>> part of three days, just to cut through the downed trees to reach a
>> highway.
>>
>>
>
>
> You guys have it rough. The most I have to worry about is wildfire and
> earthquakes I guess. But if an earthquake knocked my house down I'd be
> staying here anyway.
>
> As for wild fire I'd just have to get across the river.
>
> It's aready 20mile round trip to the gas station so i've always got
> enough gas for that (+ more usually for the quad and generators)
>
> My mom has to worry about tsunami but she could just come up to my house
> -- i'm about 10 miles into the mountains from the coast so noproblemo.
> Flooding does hit a lot but all that does is take out bridges. My house
> is far enough up the hill not to worry about direct flooding.
>
> You guys are kind of nuts to be living down there in Hurricane land with
> all those millions of people needing to move at the same time. It must
> be pure hell (but otherwise really nice I guess)
>
And all we worry about here is the power going out for a day or two in
sub-zero weather.
Use a natural gas stove and fireplace, keep the pantry full and have a
can of gas for the snowblower when the lake-effect finally subsides.
That's about it.
I remember being in Mobile AL, when hurricane Frederick came through
back in '79. We bugged out and were fine, but when we came back we went
without power for a couple of weeks. Hardest part was driving around to
find a gas station that had a genny and getting a bag of ice each day
from the Red Cross for the cooler to keep a couple of things cold. (we
were newlyweds so we didn't really need a TV :-)
daestrom
> best of luck
>
> -z
Posted by krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz on July 12, 2010, 7:22 pm
>z wrote:
>>
>>> "krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz" wrote:
>>>> I generally keep enough gas in my vehicles to make 10 miles. ;-)
>>>
>>> When the last hurricanes hit N Central Florida, gasoline trucks were
>>> stopped at the state lines. Most stations don't have backup
>> generators,
>>> and people evacuating the area wiped out 99% of the available fuel, so
>>> it would be a couple hundred miles to the nearest source of fuel. Now
>>> that a new law took effect about upgrading underground fuel tanks,
>> about
>>> half the stations around here are either closed, or have just had the
>>> tanks removed. Most can't afford the $500,000 to replace everything
>> and
>>> come up to the new code. that means that there will be that much less
>>> fuel available, next time.
>>>
>>> Not only that, but it took several gallons of gasoline and the
>> better
>>> part of three days, just to cut through the downed trees to reach a
>>> highway.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> You guys have it rough. The most I have to worry about is wildfire and
>> earthquakes I guess. But if an earthquake knocked my house down I'd be
>> staying here anyway.
>>
>> As for wild fire I'd just have to get across the river.
>>
>> It's aready 20mile round trip to the gas station so i've always got
>> enough gas for that (+ more usually for the quad and generators)
>>
>> My mom has to worry about tsunami but she could just come up to my house
>> -- i'm about 10 miles into the mountains from the coast so noproblemo.
>> Flooding does hit a lot but all that does is take out bridges. My house
>> is far enough up the hill not to worry about direct flooding.
>>
>> You guys are kind of nuts to be living down there in Hurricane land with
>> all those millions of people needing to move at the same time. It must
>> be pure hell (but otherwise really nice I guess)
>>
>And all we worry about here is the power going out for a day or two in
>sub-zero weather.
Franlkly, I worried far more about that than I do from Hurricanes here. It
happened to me three times, once was just a furnace malfunction and an
incompetent service company.
>Use a natural gas stove and fireplace, keep the pantry full and have a
>can of gas for the snowblower when the lake-effect finally subsides.
>That's about it.
When we were in Vermont we had a wood stove and oil -> gas furnace. The wood
stove would heat the whole house, when it was down to -20F or better. I never
had to use it for long, but it was nice to have as a backup. A cord of wood
lasted me five years, so I wasn't used much and I always had plenty of wood.
>I remember being in Mobile AL, when hurricane Frederick came through
>back in '79. We bugged out and were fine, but when we came back we went
>without power for a couple of weeks.
My plan is to bug out and come back when the power is back. We're ~200mi from
the gulf, so I don't expect to get the brunt of hurricanes.
>Hardest part was driving around to
>find a gas station that had a genny and getting a bag of ice each day
>from the Red Cross for the cooler to keep a couple of things cold. (we
>were newlyweds so we didn't really need a TV :-)
;-)
Posted by vaughn on July 13, 2010, 2:49 pm
> Use a natural gas stove and fireplace, keep the pantry full and have a can of
> gas for the snowblower when the lake-effect finally subsides. That's about it.
Yep. I am just a dumb Florida boy, but I would guess that you would always want
an alternate way to keep at least one room warm. Fireplace, Franklin stove,
kero heater...something like that. I remember from my Michigan childhood that
it doesn't always take a storm or a power outage to cause a family emergency;
furnaces sometimes break!
Vaughn
Posted by Michael A. Terrell on July 15, 2010, 5:02 am
z wrote:
>
>
> >
> > "krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz" wrote:
> >>
> >> I generally keep enough gas in my vehicles to make 10 miles. ;-)
> >
> >
> > When the last hurricanes hit N Central Florida, gasoline trucks were
> > stopped at the state lines. Most stations don't have backup
> generators,
> > and people evacuating the area wiped out 99% of the available fuel, so
> > it would be a couple hundred miles to the nearest source of fuel. Now
> > that a new law took effect about upgrading underground fuel tanks,
> about
> > half the stations around here are either closed, or have just had the
> > tanks removed. Most can't afford the $500,000 to replace everything
> and
> > come up to the new code. that means that there will be that much less
> > fuel available, next time.
> >
> > Not only that, but it took several gallons of gasoline and the
> better
> > part of three days, just to cut through the downed trees to reach a
> > highway.
> >
> >
>
> You guys have it rough. The most I have to worry about is wildfire and
> earthquakes I guess. But if an earthquake knocked my house down I'd be
> staying here anyway.
>
> As for wild fire I'd just have to get across the river.
>
> It's aready 20mile round trip to the gas station so i've always got
> enough gas for that (+ more usually for the quad and generators)
>
> My mom has to worry about tsunami but she could just come up to my house
> -- i'm about 10 miles into the mountains from the coast so noproblemo.
> Flooding does hit a lot but all that does is take out bridges. My house
> is far enough up the hill not to worry about direct flooding.
>
> You guys are kind of nuts to be living down there in Hurricane land with
> all those millions of people needing to move at the same time. It must
> be pure hell (but otherwise really nice I guess)
>
> best of luck
>
> -z
Why? I've been here 20+ years, and was told to leave once.
--
Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to
have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.
Posted by Pete Keillor on July 6, 2010, 8:04 pm
On Tue, 6 Jul 2010 11:18:06 -0400, "vaughn"
>>>
>>
>> It's likely your spare hub will die along with those in use. It'll be
>> exposed to the same elements, spare may roll in the slipstream, seal
>> will be compressed on spindle, etc. I'd seal up the spare hub
>> somehow, maybe plastic cups over ends and stored in waterproof box.
>Thoes are all good thoughts! The bearings and seals are dirt cheap online. My
>thought is to just rebuild all three hubs every few years.
>>
>> Can you evacuate ahead of time?
>That is my plan but...
>> Sometimes they don't let trailers on
>> the road when it's down to crunch time. If you're retired, then
>> that's not a problem as long as you don't mind evacuations. It's also
>> a hell of a lot easier to evacuate a day or two before crush.
>Yep! I hope to evacuate a day ahead of everybody else. I am retired so tht
>simplifies things. I have a 91-year-old father and his wife who will need to
be
>persuaded to accompany us. That complicates things! I have never heard of
>trailers being excluded, or of Florida having enough police in enough places to
>enforce such a ban.
This was in Texas, for Hurricane Allen in 1980. It turned out to be a
non-event on the upper Texas coast, but that was the first satellite
high res shot of a very symmetrical hurricane, and it rattled
everybody.
>> I once spent 12 hours driving 120 miles.
>I have heard stories far worse. I knew folks who just gave up and drove back
>home to face the hurricane. I am expecting no gas (or anything else) to be
>available inside Florida, so the trailer will carry luggage, food, water, &
>fuel.
> > Drank a twelve pack of cokes,
>Where does one pee when you are stuck in endless bumper-to-bumper traffic?
>(Note to self: Include one empty wide-mouth juice bottle in evac kit.)
Just don't mix up the cans...
>> smoked a half dozen cigars. For a good chunk of the trip, there were
>> cars in both lanes (2 lane road), both shoulders, and some in the
>> ditches.
>Yep, leaving early sounds better and better!
>Thanks for the thoughts
>Vaughn
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>> "krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz" wrote:
>>> I generally keep enough gas in my vehicles to make 10 miles. ;-)
>>
>> When the last hurricanes hit N Central Florida, gasoline trucks were
>> stopped at the state lines. Most stations don't have backup
> generators,
>> and people evacuating the area wiped out 99% of the available fuel, so
>> it would be a couple hundred miles to the nearest source of fuel. Now
>> that a new law took effect about upgrading underground fuel tanks,
> about
>> half the stations around here are either closed, or have just had the
>> tanks removed. Most can't afford the $500,000 to replace everything
> and
>> come up to the new code. that means that there will be that much less
>> fuel available, next time.
>>
>> Not only that, but it took several gallons of gasoline and the
> better
>> part of three days, just to cut through the downed trees to reach a
>> highway.
>>
>>
>
>
> You guys have it rough. The most I have to worry about is wildfire and
> earthquakes I guess. But if an earthquake knocked my house down I'd be
> staying here anyway.
>
> As for wild fire I'd just have to get across the river.
>
> It's aready 20mile round trip to the gas station so i've always got
> enough gas for that (+ more usually for the quad and generators)
>
> My mom has to worry about tsunami but she could just come up to my house
> -- i'm about 10 miles into the mountains from the coast so noproblemo.
> Flooding does hit a lot but all that does is take out bridges. My house
> is far enough up the hill not to worry about direct flooding.
>
> You guys are kind of nuts to be living down there in Hurricane land with
> all those millions of people needing to move at the same time. It must
> be pure hell (but otherwise really nice I guess)
>