Posted by JosephKK on June 26, 2010, 12:02 pm
On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 15:09:26 GMT, zekfrivo@zekfrivolous.com (GregS)
wrote:
>>
>>> Is this an air cooled generator ??
>>>
>>> Can an air cooled gen run for 24/7 ??
>>
>>Yes, no reason why not. That said: there is a vague classification of
>>generators called "Prime Power" generators that are truly made to run 24/7/365.
>>
>>This is a portable "standby" generator, so is not made to that standard (not
>>even close!) but is fine for occasional duty that may run into weeks.
>>
>>>
>>> I thought that they need to be shut down every few hours.
>>> ( I don't know any better )
>>
>>An air-cooled generator loaded and used within its specifications will get as
>>hot as it is going to get in 15 or 20 minutes. perhaps sooner. There would be
>>
>>no reason to let it "rest" every few hours, except to give your ears a rest,
>>save fuel, and check the oil.
>How about refuel.
>Of course I have done that without shutting off during amateur field day.
>I did like to check the oil.
>You should have a shut offf valve after the fuel tank, and this is
>absolutely required for storage inside.
>You can make sound baffles for noise.
>Ground rods are nice.
>Exactly how your going to connect to devices is always interesting.
Oohhh. Good point, if this is going to be used for backup power for an
all metal boat there are special requirements that need to be met.
Posted by Gunner Asch on June 26, 2010, 10:20 am
> Hurricane season is coming and I needed to get a source of emergency
>power to keep my business inventory frozen
>if we do lose power. I don't have a convenient place to permanently place
>the generator, so I decided to put it on a
>trailer. Now I can store it in the back yard and move it near the house as
>needed.
> I was almost ready to buy the Honda EU6500isa for $,400 but found the
>Miller Bobcat 250 for $,389 with
>58% more watts and I think the welder will hold it's value better, so I
>bought the Miller.
>I got the trailer from Harbor Freight, Regular price $59.99 on sale for
>$99.99 but I was only billed $79.99. :-)
>http://www.harborfreight.com/1090-lb-capacity-40-1-2-half-inch-x-48-inch-mini-utility-trailer-with-12-inch-four-lug-wheels-and-tires-90153.html
> I bought a Miller Bobcat 250 welder with 9,500 watts continuous power.
>http://www.harrisweldingsupplies.com/millerwelderbobcat250.aspx
> Check their ebay price, $00 cheaper but they offered the ebay price to me.
>Pictures below.
>My son helping with assembly in the living room. Air conditioned workshop
>(wife was working)
>http://i395.photobucket.com/albums/pp37/Qmavam/P1013355.jpg
>Trailer assembled except for fenders.
>http://i395.photobucket.com/albums/pp37/Qmavam/P1013356.jpg
>Trailer with 3/4" plywood base.
>http://i395.photobucket.com/albums/pp37/Qmavam/P1013357.jpg
> Trailer with welder mounted, Balance worked out well, about 30 lb tongue
>weight.
>http://i395.photobucket.com/albums/pp37/Qmavam/P1013366.jpg
>I can push it around the yard myself.
> Welder is 560 lbs, trailer rated at 1090 lbs.
>Don't have plans to tow it on road, but trailer came with title, fenders and
>lights.
>I'll be adding a drop on cover to keep the rain off.
>Cover design thoughts still churning.
> Mike
Put a nice well made minimum 3/8" chain though the top lifting loop and
secure it with an Abus lock, around something very hard to cut.
Nice rigs like this..tend to disappear to Mexico/etc etc
Gunner
One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
Gunner Asch
Posted by amdx on June 26, 2010, 11:05 am
--
MikeK
>> Hurricane season is coming and I needed to get a source of emergency
>>power to keep my business inventory frozen
>>if we do lose power. I don't have a convenient place to permanently place
>>the generator, so I decided to put it on a
>>trailer. Now I can store it in the back yard and move it near the house as
>>needed.
>> I was almost ready to buy the Honda EU6500isa for $,400 but found the
>>Miller Bobcat 250 for $,389 with
>>58% more watts and I think the welder will hold it's value better, so I
>>bought the Miller.
>>
>>I got the trailer from Harbor Freight, Regular price $59.99 on sale for
>>$99.99 but I was only billed $79.99. :-)
>>http://www.harborfreight.com/1090-lb-capacity-40-1-2-half-inch-x-48-inch-mini-utility-trailer-with-12-inch-four-lug-wheels-and-tires-90153.html
>>
>> I bought a Miller Bobcat 250 welder with 9,500 watts continuous power.
>>http://www.harrisweldingsupplies.com/millerwelderbobcat250.aspx
>> Check their ebay price, $00 cheaper but they offered the ebay price to
>> me.
>>
>>Pictures below.
>>
>>My son helping with assembly in the living room. Air conditioned workshop
>>(wife was working)
>>http://i395.photobucket.com/albums/pp37/Qmavam/P1013355.jpg
>>
>>Trailer assembled except for fenders.
>>http://i395.photobucket.com/albums/pp37/Qmavam/P1013356.jpg
>>
>>Trailer with 3/4" plywood base.
>>http://i395.photobucket.com/albums/pp37/Qmavam/P1013357.jpg
>>
>> Trailer with welder mounted, Balance worked out well, about 30 lb tongue
>>weight.
>>http://i395.photobucket.com/albums/pp37/Qmavam/P1013366.jpg
>>I can push it around the yard myself.
>> Welder is 560 lbs, trailer rated at 1090 lbs.
>>Don't have plans to tow it on road, but trailer came with title, fenders
>>and
>>lights.
>>
>>I'll be adding a drop on cover to keep the rain off.
>>Cover design thoughts still churning.
>>
>> Mike
>>
> Put a nice well made minimum 3/8" chain though the top lifting loop and
> secure it with an Abus lock, around something very hard to cut.
> Nice rigs like this..tend to disappear to Mexico/etc etc
> Gunner
Yes Gunner, My thought is, once I park it, I'll put it up on blocks and
take the wheel/tires off and store those elsewhere.
Mike
Posted by Gunner Asch on June 26, 2010, 5:41 pm
>> Put a nice well made minimum 3/8" chain though the top lifting loop and
>> secure it with an Abus lock, around something very hard to cut.
>>
>> Nice rigs like this..tend to disappear to Mexico/etc etc
>>
>> Gunner
>>
> Yes Gunner, My thought is, once I park it, I'll put it up on blocks and
>take the wheel/tires off and store those elsewhere.
> Mike
Then you wont have a portable generator. Just one on a simple slab.
I think you will find uses for the welding application this Very nice
machine will provide for you. It is also capable of running a MIG gun as
well as stick and TIG
Shrug...I have always had a very strong "what if" world view, and try to
set up things to reflect the changing world.
Shrug...each to their own.
Nice machine.
Gunner
One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
Gunner Asch
Posted by amdx on June 26, 2010, 6:30 pm
--
MikeK
>>> Put a nice well made minimum 3/8" chain though the top lifting loop and
>>> secure it with an Abus lock, around something very hard to cut.
>>>
>>> Nice rigs like this..tend to disappear to Mexico/etc etc
>>>
>>> Gunner
>>>
>> Yes Gunner, My thought is, once I park it, I'll put it up on blocks and
>>take the wheel/tires off and store those elsewhere.
>> Mike
> Then you wont have a portable generator. Just one on a simple slab.
When a hurricane comes I'll put the wheels back on, then I can push it
closer to the house for use.
> I think you will find uses for the welding application this Very nice
> machine will provide for you. It is also capable of running a MIG gun as
> well as stick and TIG
> Shrug...I have always had a very strong "what if" world view, and try to
> set up things to reflect the changing world.
Me too, that's why I bought a welder instead of a generator. I figured a low
hrs
welder would be worth more than a low hrs generator.
> Shrug...each to their own.
> Nice machine.
> Gunner
> One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
> in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
> and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
> not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
> Gunner Asch
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>>> Is this an air cooled generator ??
>>>
>>> Can an air cooled gen run for 24/7 ??
>>
>>Yes, no reason why not. That said: there is a vague classification of
>>generators called "Prime Power" generators that are truly made to run 24/7/365.
>>
>>This is a portable "standby" generator, so is not made to that standard (not
>>even close!) but is fine for occasional duty that may run into weeks.
>>
>>>
>>> I thought that they need to be shut down every few hours.
>>> ( I don't know any better )
>>
>>An air-cooled generator loaded and used within its specifications will get as
>>hot as it is going to get in 15 or 20 minutes. perhaps sooner. There would be
>>
>>no reason to let it "rest" every few hours, except to give your ears a rest,
>>save fuel, and check the oil.
>How about refuel.
>Of course I have done that without shutting off during amateur field day.
>I did like to check the oil.
>You should have a shut offf valve after the fuel tank, and this is
>absolutely required for storage inside.
>You can make sound baffles for noise.
>Ground rods are nice.
>Exactly how your going to connect to devices is always interesting.