Posted by Vaughn Simon on August 3, 2008, 9:25 am
>Measuring your water heater electric useage isn't meaningful unless
>you can reduce it,
Not so! Knowing how much you are paying for your hot water energy can help you
to compare possible alternatives. Perhaps you might profitably scrap an
electric heater for gas, or solar, or heat recovery from a central AC system, or
even one of those new heat pump hot water heaters.
Vaughn
Posted by Jim Wilkins on August 3, 2008, 1:14 pm
wrote:
> >Measuring your water heater electric useage isn't meaningful unless
> >you can reduce it,
> Not so! Knowing how much you are paying for your hot water energy can help you
> to compare possible alternatives. Perhaps you might profitably scrap an
> electric heater for gas, or solar, or heat recovery from a central AC system, or
> even one of those new heat pump hot water heaters.
> Vaughn
"unless you can reduce it,"
Mine is on a separate meter, which gives the monthly total but wasn't
too helpful for accurately determining the electricity used by one
shower or load of laundry, both of which were less than the meter's 1
KWH resolution. I hooked one, then several clamp-on ammeters around a
wire and found that they disagreed with each other significantly.
You could estimate hot water cost by reading the meter, everyone
showers and does laundry, then read it again. Read it later after an
equal time interval to measure and subtract the baseline consumption.
You may get more typical results if they don't know you're checking.
Posted by amdx on August 4, 2008, 10:05 am
wrote:
> >Measuring your water heater electric useage isn't meaningful unless
> >you can reduce it,
The meaning is in knowing how much I reduce it.
>You may get more typical results if they don't know you're checking.
That's the RED HAT affect.
Wear a red hat while driving and you will get better fuel mileage.
Knowing you have your red hat on to get better mileage, will cause you
to be a little lighter on the gas pedal.
It has to be true I saw it on the net!
Mike
Posted by Trygve Lillefosse on August 4, 2008, 6:05 pm
>wrote:
>>
>> >Measuring your water heater electric useage isn't meaningful unless
>> >you can reduce it,
> The meaning is in knowing how much I reduce it.
>>You may get more typical results if they don't know you're checking.
> That's the RED HAT affect.
> Wear a red hat while driving and you will get better fuel mileage.
> Knowing you have your red hat on to get better mileage, will cause you
>to be a little lighter on the gas pedal.
> It has to be true I saw it on the net!
Hmm, might as well be the Hawthorne effect. If something changes -
people do better.
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AKA - Malawi, The Fisher King
Posted by Steve Ackman on August 7, 2008, 10:53 am
GMT, Daniel Who Wants to Know, danielthechskid@merrychristmasi.com wrote:
> Here is a simple solution for an electric water heater usage monitor,
> ...
> For instance assume a 4500
> watt @ 230V element but your power is actually 208 instead. 4500/230.57
> amps 230/19.57.75 ohms. 208/11.75.70 amps 17.7x208682 watts.
Or more concisely and precisely,
(208/230)^2 x 4500 = 3680.3025
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>you can reduce it,