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Posted by Eeyore on July 28, 2008, 11:50 am
 


Don T wrote:


Amd I'm sure it will judge it very badly.



Minor violations. A nation saying "we're not broken yet. No more than that.



Almost entirely pure intelligemce myth planted in the heads of the neocons by
Saddam's opponents who hoped to run the country after it was over-run by US (and
UK) troops.

You were HAD.

Read up about Dr David Kelly.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Kelly_ (weapons_expert)

"They are not mobile germ warfare laboratories. You could not use them for
making biological weapons. They do not even look like them. They are exactly
what the Iraqis said they were - facilities for the production of hydrogen gas
to fill balloons"

Rumour has it he was 'eliminated' lest he tell the truth. It was to look like
suicide but it doesn't look right.

I strongly suggest you read that article in depth. And there's so much more.

Also.
http://25by4.channel4.com/chapter_3/article_7
http://www.channel4.com/entertainment/tv/microsites/G/government_inspector/
http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0449030/

Also see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century
And READ their site (oh it seems to have vanished). Along with the evidence.

"As of July 8, 2008, The Project for the New American Century website is
inoperable. A message saying that the account has been suspended and to contact
the billing department was put on the site's page."

Now why would they do that ?

Graham


Posted by Trygve Lillefosse on July 27, 2008, 8:20 pm
 
wrote:


Those organizations are founded from Saudi Arabia and operates from
Afghanistan.

Iraq was a secular state, with some rebel groups in the north. Those
rebel groups probarbly had connections to Afghanistan, but were
actively fought by the goverment.



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Trygve Lillefosse
AKA - Malawi, The Fisher King

Posted by Kris Krieger on July 27, 2008, 10:51 pm
 

AFAIK, you're right.  There was no evidence of eith er WMDs, or Al
Quaida, in Iraq, until after we'd gone went in - after Saddam was
toppled, a power-vacuum was cerated and, due to poor planning, we simply
did not have enough of a presence there to control the situation.


Saddam didn't cotton to anyone who didn't swear fealty to him and him
alone.  He'd struck me as being very much like Stalin, and for that and
other reasons, I was in agreement with the UN inspectors.  Whjich, of
course, got me called "a traitor" (by people who, unlike myself, had
never taken an oath to "protect the Constitution from all enemies,
foreign and domestic...")






Posted by Eeyore on July 28, 2008, 12:07 pm
 

Trygve Lillefosse wrote:


Those in the North are the Kurds, fighting for an independent Kurdistan. They
also have an argument with Turkey over borders. It was some of them who were
notoriously gassed by Saddam's forces.

Graham


Posted by Bob F on July 30, 2008, 5:23 pm
 

Considering that there was virtually no "al queda" in Iraq before we invaded, I
would suggest that we have "contained" nothing. What we have done is everything
Osama wanted. We've moved our bases out of Saudi arabia. We've seen the price of
oil tripple. We've given 10s of thousands of people reasons to hate and mistrust
the U.S., and a perfect training ground for Osama's efforts. That training is
now reflected in the change of tactics in Afganistan (You know - where Al Queda
origionated) where attacks are increasing. Al Queda is stronger than ever. The
U.S. is hated around the world. U.S. citizens are far less safe anywhere else in
the world than they were pre-bush. Iraq had nothing of significance to do with
terrorism. But it does now.



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