Whisper 175 @ 2160 KWH per month

Posted by Pal on May 4, 2004, 10:09 pm

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I have a home business and I use about 2500 KWH per month on 3 different =
meters.
2 of them are the peak type ( I believe) which are for commercial use.  =
My yearly electric is about $5,000.

I was trying to size a wind turbine system when I came across the =
Whisper 175. The seller claims 2160 KWH per month at 28 mph wind.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=294&item=30942=
99858&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW
"3000 WATT 24 VOLT WHISPER H175 WIND TURBINE GENERATOR (NEW-IN-THE-BOX) =
CAN PRODUCE UP TO 2,160,000 WATT HOURS PER MONTH (2160 KWH) AT A 28 MPH =
WIND VELOCITY. THIS IS EQUIVALENT TO 120 SOLAR PV 100 WATT PANELS IN 6 =
HOURS OF SUN DAILY PER MONTH."

But the manufactures website says it is rated at 500 KWH @ 12 mph.
http://www.windenergy.com/SUPPORT/download3/sp_wh175.pdf

I was wondering if the 2160 KWH is realistic for long term use.  I live =
on a hill and have almost continuous winds. But I have not measured them =
yet.  I assume I will lose some power with invertors and I expect to pay =
another $5K for batteries, installation, etc...

So for a $10,000 investment it would pay for its self in 2 years.  But =
this does not sound realistic.
What am I missing here?

Thanks
Pal
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I have a home business and I use about 2500 KWH per
month on 3 different meters.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>2 of them are the peak type ( I believe) which are
for commercial use.  My yearly electric is about =
$5,000.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I was trying to size a wind turbine system when I
came across the Whisper 175. The seller claims 2160 KWH per month at 28 =
mph
wind.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><A
href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=294&=
amp;item=3094299858&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW"><FONT
face=Arial
size=2>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=294=
&item=3094299858&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW</FONT></A></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>"3000 WATT 24 VOLT WHISPER H175 WIND TURBINE
GENERATOR (NEW-IN-THE-BOX) CAN PRODUCE UP TO 2,160,000 WATT HOURS PER =
MONTH
(2160 KWH) AT A 28 MPH WIND VELOCITY. THIS IS EQUIVALENT TO 120 SOLAR PV =
100
WATT PANELS IN 6 HOURS OF SUN DAILY PER MONTH."</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>But the manufactures website says it is rated at
500 KWH @ 12 mph.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><A href="http://www.windenergy.com/SUPPORT/download3/sp_wh175.pdf"><FONT
face=Arial
size=2>http://www.windenergy.com/SUPPORT/download3/sp_wh175.pdf</FONT><=
/A></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I was wondering if the 2160 KWH is realistic for
long term use.  I live on a hill and have almost continuous winds. =
But I
have not measured them yet.  I assume I will lose some power with =
invertors
and I expect to pay another $5K for batteries, installation,
etc...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>So for a $10,000 investment it would pay for its
self in 2 years.  But this does not sound realistic.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>What am I missing here?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Pal</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>

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Posted by Solar Guppy on May 4, 2004, 10:13 pm

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NO !!

There is NO way are you going to get 2.5 megawatts every month ... =
usually the manufactures rating are optimistic !!

  I have a home business and I use about 2500 KWH per month on 3 =
different meters.
  2 of them are the peak type ( I believe) which are for commercial use. =
My yearly electric is about $5,000.

  I was trying to size a wind turbine system when I came across the =
Whisper 175. The seller claims 2160 KWH per month at 28 mph wind.

  =
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=294&item=30942=
99858&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW
  "3000 WATT 24 VOLT WHISPER H175 WIND TURBINE GENERATOR =
(NEW-IN-THE-BOX) CAN PRODUCE UP TO 2,160,000 WATT HOURS PER MONTH (2160 =
KWH) AT A 28 MPH WIND VELOCITY. THIS IS EQUIVALENT TO 120 SOLAR PV 100 =
WATT PANELS IN 6 HOURS OF SUN DAILY PER MONTH."

  But the manufactures website says it is rated at 500 KWH @ 12 mph.
  http://www.windenergy.com/SUPPORT/download3/sp_wh175.pdf

  I was wondering if the 2160 KWH is realistic for long term use.  I =
live on a hill and have almost continuous winds. But I have not measured =
them yet.  I assume I will lose some power with invertors and I expect =
to pay another $5K for batteries, installation, etc...

  So for a $10,000 investment it would pay for its self in 2 years.  But =
this does not sound realistic.
  What am I missing here?

  Thanks
  Pal
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>NO !!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>There is NO way are you going to get 2.5 megawatts
every month ... usually the manufactures rating are optimistic =
!!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
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style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV>"Pal" <<A =
  wrote in message <A
  =
484@attbi_s03</A>...</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I have a home business and I use =
about 2500 KWH
  per month on 3 different meters.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>2 of them are the peak type ( I =
believe) which
  are for commercial use.  My yearly electric is about =
$5,000.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I was trying to size a wind turbine =
system when I
  came across the Whisper 175. The seller claims 2160 KWH per month at =
28 mph
  wind.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV><A
  =
href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=294&=
amp;item=3094299858&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW"><FONT
  face=Arial
  =
size=2>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=294=
&item=3094299858&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW</FONT></A></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>"3000 WATT 24 VOLT WHISPER H175 WIND =
TURBINE
  GENERATOR (NEW-IN-THE-BOX) CAN PRODUCE UP TO 2,160,000 WATT HOURS PER =
MONTH
  (2160 KWH) AT A 28 MPH WIND VELOCITY. THIS IS EQUIVALENT TO 120 SOLAR =
PV 100
  WATT PANELS IN 6 HOURS OF SUN DAILY PER MONTH."</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>But the manufactures website says it =
is rated at
  500 KWH @ 12 mph.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><A =
href="http://www.windenergy.com/SUPPORT/download3/sp_wh175.pdf"><FONT
  face=Arial
  =
size=2>http://www.windenergy.com/SUPPORT/download3/sp_wh175.pdf</FONT><=
/A></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I was wondering if the 2160 KWH is =
realistic for
  long term use.  I live on a hill and have almost continuous =
winds. But I
  have not measured them yet.  I assume I will lose some power with =

  invertors and I expect to pay another $5K for batteries, =
installation,
  etc...</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>So for a $10,000 investment it would =
pay for its
  self in 2 years.  But this does not sound realistic.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>What am I missing here?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial =
size=2>Pal</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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Posted by nicksanspam on May 6, 2004, 5:32 am

Watch your language, Buster.

Nick

Posted by Solar Guppy on May 6, 2004, 7:41 am

Oh no ... I've been sited by the invisible solar garage police :)

Posted by Bob Adkins on May 6, 2004, 8:21 am

On Thu, 6 May 2004 07:41:12 -0400, "Solar Guppy"

Lay that ammeter on the ground, and sloooooly back away!

Bob

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Whisper 175 @ 2160 KWH per month - Realistic???